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    Default Urgent-17yr old daughter taking 8-10 xanax bars when she parties!

    She's popping 8 or 10 bars along with her teenage friends two or three times a week when they party. That's 2mgs per bar! How much is considered a dangerous or fatal overdose? I'm an addict and I can't take more than one bar. I am just terribly worried about her, she ran off from her dad's, I'm trying to stay clean so she knows she can't stay with me unless she stays clean. So she's living with several of her friends. Her life is all about looking pretty and partying.

    Please help, I need suggestions, esp on how to get her to stop the benzos. She also drinks a lot of beer and smokes weed. This girl is so beautiful and talented and right now she just doesn't care about anything but getting high and being with friends. I just spent a week with her at her friends and the smell of weed made me sick. Please pray for her, her name is Sarah.

    Thanks for reading and love to all,
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    What REALLY has me concerned is the Xanax/alcohol combo. Especially at the doses you're describing! I'm alarmed as you are. This is one of those 1000 ways to die.

    Do ANYTHING in your power to keep that Xanax and alcohol out of your daughter's system. If she's doing it, call 911.

    Xanax is on of the most toxic benzos in overdose, ESPECIALLY with booze! Does she know the danger she's putting herself in? Maybe if you had a talk with her about how seriously dangerous Xanax overdose is, she'd think twice.

    Xanax overdosage alone or in combination with alcohol can be fatal.
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    Twenty mg of xanax with just a few shots of liquor is certainly enough to kill.
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    Peter is right. This is from the xanax pi (prescribing information)

    OVERDOSAGE
    Clinical Experience Manifestations of alprazolam overdosage include somnolence, confusion, impaired coordination, diminished reflexes and coma. Death has been reported in association with overdoses of alprazolam by itself, as it has with other benzodiazepines. In addition, fatalities have been reported in patients who have overdosed with a combination of a single benzodiazepine, including alprazolam, and alcohol; alcohol levels seen in some of these
    patients have been lower than those usually associated with alcohol-induced fatality.
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    The acute oral LD50 in rats is 331-2171 mg/kg. Other experiments in animals have indicated that cardiopulmonary collapse can occur following massive intravenous doses of alprazolam (over 195 mg/kg; 975 times the maximum recommended daily human dose of 10 mg/day). Animals could be resuscitated with positive mechanical ventilation and the intravenous infusion of norepinephrine bitartrate. Animal experiments have suggested that forced diuresis or hemodialysis are probably of little
    value in treating overdosage.
    The part about the alcohol and benzo's is a very dangerous combination. If she is overdosing she needs to have a doctor look at here when she comes off the medication because if she just 100% stops she could have a seizure (depending on how long she has been taking this stuff for)

    This is what the PI says about treatment for an overdose:
    General Treatment of Overdose
    Overdosage reports with XANAX Tablets are limited. As in all cases of drug overdosage, respiration, pulse rate, and blood pressure should be monitored. General supportive measures should be employed, along with immediate gastric lavage. Intravenous fluids should be administered and an adequate airway maintained. If hypotension occurs, it may be combated by the use of vasopressors. Dialysis is of limited value. As with the management of intentional
    overdosing with any drug, it should be borne in mind that multiple agents may have been ingested.
    Flumazenil, a specific benzodiazepine receptor antagonist, is indicated for the complete or partial reversal of the sedative effects of benzodiazepines and may be used in situations when an overdose with a benzodiazepine is known or suspected. Prior to the administration of flumazenil, necessary measures should be instituted to secure airway, ventilation and intravenous access. Flumazenil is intended as an adjunct to, not as a substitute for, proper management of benzodiazepine overdose. Patients treated with flumazenil should be
    monitored for re-sedation, respiratory depression, and other residual benzodiazepine effects for an appropriate period after treatment. The prescriber should be aware of a risk of seizure in association with flumazenil treatment, particularly in long-term benzodiazepine users and in cyclic antidepressant overdose. The complete flumazenil package insert including CONTRAINDICATIONS, WARNINGS and PRECAUTIONS
    should be consulted prior to use.
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    After going back and reading what was written more carefully I'm not 100% in agreement with what peter said about doing everything in your power to keep her off the xanax. Although yes keep her 100% off the alcohol. The xanax removal needs to be monitored by a doctor carefully. It should not be your job since you do not have the training to deal with it. It's not something you can just handle yourself. She could have withdrawls, have a seizure (like I mentioned before), or overdose. You need to take her to see a professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonyuh View Post
    After going back and reading what was written more carefully I'm not 100% in agreement with what peter said about doing everything in your power to keep her off the xanax. Although yes keep her 100% off the alcohol. The xanax removal needs to be monitored by a doctor carefully. It should not be your job since you do not have the training to deal with it. It's not something you can just handle yourself. She could have withdrawls, have a seizure (like I mentioned before), or overdose. You need to take her to see a professional.
    Yes I agree with that correction, thank you. Xanax should be stopped gradually. But stopping it suddenly is FAR less risky than binging on it and then drinking on top of it!

    If someone is pass-out drunk AND has taken 10-20mg of Xanax, 911 should be called IMMEDIATELY! It is an emergency. Worry about withdrawal syndrome later!

    And of course, she needs to be in a hospital to detox after the acute intoxication has been controlled.

    Maybe if she passes out at a party and comes-to in the ER, it'll be a wake-up call, for everyone.
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    Thanks so much to all for your responses. I'm just in tears over this, I worry each night before I fall asleep that I will get that phonecall in the middle of the night from the police. I live in fear. I'm an addict trying so hard to stay clean, benzos and booze are not my thing, so I'm thinking of moving in with her to help her stop. But how do you stop a 17 yr old from partying and running with 20 friends who all do the same thing? Do I risk alienation from her by call the cops when they break out the dope?
    I would do anything to save her life. I saw a video of her on one of those Flip things last weekend, she was "barred out", drunk, puking in the toilet, and mumbling nonsense. I cried. I used to use drugs til I didn't know who I was and I'm blessed to be alive, but will she get thru this? And can I have a child her age committed?

    Again, I ask for prayers. She's my heart and soul. I appreciate your replies.
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    Sheryl! You are in a tough spot. Sarah needs professional rehab and you need a strong counselor. I'm not an expert in this field, but some here are. Here's my best advice.

    Do I risk alienation from her by call the cops when they break out the dope? Yes, but you must do this. As soon as you KNOW they have "broken out the dope" call the police. Your daughter doesn't know the volatility of the fire she's playing with. Twenty mg of Xanax, ESPECIALLY if she does weekend binges (therefore not tolerant) has "phone-call from the medical examiner" written all over it. Treat any such binge of Xanax and alcohol as an life-threatening EMERGENCY. Get closer to her.

    "I would do anything to save her life." Godspeed. Follow through in every respect.

    And can I have a child her age committed? I don't know. After the police get wind (especially if a judge sees video evidence) you can probably have her put into rehab, where she needs to be. She's a minor, and in my state your responsibility, your laws may vary.

    YOU CAN DO THIS, SARAH CANNOT.
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    Peter I can't thank you enough for your caring and thoughtful advice.

    I have failed as a mother, I stayed messed up from the time she was about 6 until last year. We love each other, but she learned from me. She wants me to be clean, but yet she's destroying herself now, the same way. And these xanax binges are not just weekend, it's a daily thing. Each day she awakens at around noon, and she and her friends are already on the phone hustling for bars. They sell for 5 buck each and somehow they are all able to cough up money to buy some. Sometimes she's takes 2mgs, sometimes 10mgs or more, and always drinks a 40oz beer with it. She does pass out according to her friends. They can't help her because they are all doing the same thing.

    My drug of choice is opiates followed closely by cocaine. So far, she's not messing with that, but if I move in to watch her, she has a friend who brings in coke, and I don't trust myself yet, not enough recovery to be around that stuff. This is hell. I can't change the past, I'm trying to get well enough to make a future for myself. My family insists I have to back off and let her fall, bump her head. But they don't understand the chemical reactions of alcohol and benzos, they don't know how serious this is. I put her in rehab when she was 15, for speed and weed, didn't help her for long.

    So, in your opinion, the next time i see her intoxicated, which will probably be tomorrow night, and if I know she popped any xanax, should I call 911 and get some help for her? If she gets pissed at me, I guess she will, but I don't want her to die!

    I'm crying as I type this. I'm just heartbroken and scared. Thank you for your caring reply.

    Love
    Sheryl

    ps - i live in texas, dallas area, i don't think i can have her committed here.

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    Exclamation Ruth, help!

    "So, in your opinion, the next time i see her intoxicated, which will probably be tomorrow night, and if I know she popped any xanax, should I call 911 and get some help for her? If she gets pissed at me, I guess she will, but I don't want her to die!"

    In this pharmacy technician's opinion, YES! especially if she's unrousable. She could drown in her own vomit if she's super-stoned. You're right, they (your family) don't understand just how dangerous this is!

    Xanax and alcohol don't mix. Period. You have an opportunity to be that good mother you always wanted to be. Take it.

    Ooh! Ruth, I'm worried about this whole situation; please interject something!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterRabbit2 View Post
    What REALLY has me concerned is the Xanax/alcohol combo. Especially at the doses you're describing! I'm alarmed as you are. This is one of those 1000 ways to die.

    Do ANYTHING in your power to keep that Xanax and alcohol out of your daughter's system. If she's doing it, call 911.

    Xanax is on of the most toxic benzos in overdose, ESPECIALLY with booze!

    Xanax overdosage alone or in combination with alcohol can be fatal.
    Just to reiterate my original opinion. Yes...911. Get the medics. It only takes one time to O.D. for the last time. The thing is, if you wait, you don't know when exactly that is, until after the fact.
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    Sheryl, you'd get more comprehensive advice in the "Need to Talk?" section. I suggest copy-and-pasting your original question there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockermom51 View Post
    Peter I can't thank you enough for your caring and thoughtful advice.

    ps - i live in texas, dallas area, i don't think i can have her committed here.
    You are so welcome!

    If you'd caught me a few months ago (I wasn't quite right in the head coming off of Dr prescribed Klonopin) you may have had a different opinion of me! I was moody and even antagonistic, very much not my style, ironically. I've leveled off quite a bit!

    I'm not in your area, so I'm unfamiliar with the laws. But I do know that possession of Xanax w/o an Rx is at least an arrestable offense. Probably a misdemeanor.

    I don't mean to have her put into a mental hospital, a regular one will do fine. They'll probably let her go on her own recognizance. Or if she's considered a minor, juvie-hall for a few days, maybe see a drug counselor.

    Whatever you do, get her actions on video. But keep them between you and law enforcement. That'll be your ace-in-the-hole.

    Sheryl, you'd get more comprehensive advice in the "Need to Talk?" section. I suggest copy-and-pasting your original question there.
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    If calling the police seems like too much for you to handle (I couldn't imagine calling the cops on my own kids) I think you could call your doctor. Like I mentioned before from the sounds of your situation I think the problem has grown outside your control. You probably need to take her to see some sort of addiction specialist.

    This is a FAQ I found for you (http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/treat/faqs.html#4)
    I am a parent concerned about my child's drug use. Do you have resources that can assist me?
    Resources designed to assist parents who are concerned about a child's drug use include: the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) resource, Suspect Your Teen Is Using Drugs or Drinking? A Brief Guide to Action For Parents; the Partnership for a Drug-Free America (PDFA) resource, Helping Others with a Drug Problem; and the A Family Guide to Keeping Youth Mentally Healthy and Drug-Free Web site.

    Additionally, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) operates a telephone hotline and Web site to assist in locating drug treatment programs throughout the United States if this is something you feel you need. The hotline number is 800-662-HELP. To access program information via the Internet, please visit the Treatment Facility Locator Web site.
    I like Peter am a pharmacy tech. While our advice is helpful I'm sure you really need to see someone who specializes in teens and drugs. I really think you should call that hotline 800-662-HELP to get further advice. Good luck Sheryl! I'll definitely be keeping her in my thoughts!

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    Thanks for the links, Nonyuh! I agree that our advice is mostly technical and that's mostly our(?) perimeter of knowledge. All I know is that if someone consumes 3 ounces of pure ethanol and 20mg of xanax, get that person to the ER!

    Also, Sheryl, if you don't want the police involved, just call an ambulance. (That is if Sarah is pass-out drunk and on Xanax.) Get her behavior on a flip, and show that to a doctor or someone of authority. But keep it private. Between you, Sarah and whatever 3rd party you choose.

    Plus, don't fear being around your drug of choice, because you KNOW you can't touch it. You are entering that place to save a life, not to get high. If you feel like it's overwhelmingly impossible to control yourself around cocaine, bring a strong, non-addict friend along with you, if possible.
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    Thanks to everyone for replies. I visited my daughter last night, she indicated to me that she's tired of the drama being in that apt with all the users. I'm going to sit down with her and explain that she can live with me but there are rules. No drugs or alcohol at all. After all, she wants me to stay clean, so she's going to have to try to do the same. I have a large, caring family and they have agreed to help me with her.

    I told her that the next time I see her intoxicated and knowing she has used xanax bars, I will call the police to find out where she obtained the bars, and an ambulance to have her stomach pumped. She knows I had mine pumped after an overdose of valium 12 years ago, and that stopped my valium use real quick.

    I will continue to receive advice from anyone willing to give it. This girl means the world to me and now I know i have to be strong enough to fight for her.

    thanks again so much and God bless all of you for your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockermom51 View Post
    Thanks to everyone for replies. I visited my daughter last night, she indicated to me that she's tired of the drama being in that apt with all the users. I'm going to sit down with her and explain that she can live with me but there are rules. No drugs or alcohol at all. After all, she wants me to stay clean, so she's going to have to try to do the same. I have a large, caring family and they have agreed to help me with her.

    I told her that the next time I see her intoxicated and knowing she has used xanax bars, I will call the police to find out where she obtained the bars, and an ambulance to have her stomach pumped. She knows I had mine pumped after an overdose of valium 12 years ago, and that stopped my valium use real quick.

    I will continue to receive advice from anyone willing to give it. This girl means the world to me and now I know i have to be strong enough to fight for her.

    thanks again so much and God bless all of you for your help!
    Sheryl
    Congratulations!

    You must watch Intervention, because you did that perfectly. Follow through on EVERYTHING you outlined. Sarah sounds open minded, that's GREAT. Puking (and probably getting laughed at in the process must not be TOO much fun, apparently.)

    Maybe if Sarah knew how dangerous Xanax + alcohol is (she could do some reading online about that.) she could have "The Fear of God Put into Her" as you had with Valium. Can she be scared straight? Maybe. That is out of my area of expertise.

    You probably both need narc-anon and/or al-anon meetings. My gut instinct says, get closer to her while remaining staunch in your rules.

    Anyone else's feedback/correction/backup would be much appreciated.
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    this is an awesome, caring, loving forum and I appreciate each of you!

    I love the show Intervention and I have asked many family members if they would be willing to have a sit down with her, read some letters to her and help her see what she's doing to herself and to us, all the one who love her so much.

    My world would turn to black if I lost her that way.

    Thanks to all who pray for her. You would love her if you knew her. God bless you all.

    sheryl

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    hi sheryl,
    better late than never, me that is.

    i am currently on subs, after many stints on methadone, and all sorts of other opiates.

    i also use benzos, not so much lately, i am learning, but i too was a binger, i would take them, and drink beer, and then take more. i was actually on the phone one night to someone on this forum, very incoherent, she heard me fall off my chair, and i fell asleep with chocolate ice cream, and it went all over me and my bed. crazy stuff.

    i liked the feeling, and your girl probably does too. so then we must think to ourselves, but whats wrong that we need things like that to make us feel good.?

    yep, all the advice is correct, alcohol and benzos are not a good mix, yep ive done it plenty, lucky for me im still alive really, i was your girls age when i first started mucking around with "downers" like benzos, and halcion (sleepin pills) we would deliberately take them while drinkin for the effect, now, years later, after a long break from benzos, ive had a little dabble again, first i got them for tryin to get off the subs, but after i have one, i will usually take the lot, its like once you feel a little bit good, i go back for more, so the bottle gets emptied on one night. its taken me over 25 years to realize, i cant have them. i like them too much, im a drug pig.

    i hope it works out for you and your girl, sounds like at least you are able to talk about it openly, thats a good start.

    i wish you all the best,
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    Thank you Cheeky. Your story sounds a whole lot like mine. I took sub for 5 yrs to remain off of hydrocodone. It worked for me, I felt normal, happier..than insurance ran out and I could not afford the cost of refills. I was never too much in to benzos, however I do take 30mgs temazepam each day to help with anxiety, but I don't feel tempted to take more than prescribed. I'm much more of an "upper" person, cocaine, meth, etc. And I'll do what ever it takes to never go back to that.

    Each day, my daughter gets in deeper. I'm now having to practive tough love with her, she's mad at me right now because she didn't get her way yesterday, typical addict behavior, right? She wanted me to bring her money, food, whatever...my family is trying to instill the belief that I must stop enabling her. My mom has spoken to the police dept and unfortunately, it's really hard to do anything about a kid that's 17.

    I have a strong belief in God, and prayer, and still, I have this aching feeling in my heart that I'm going to lose her forever if she doesn't stop this. Her best friend's cousin died last Nov from a xanax overdose, and that doesn't seem to wake her up.

    I won't give up on her. She's my baby and I know that my past addictive behavior is a major reason that she is harming herself with drugs. She saw me do it. If only I could turn back time...

    Thanks again for your message, I still have hope but I know it will be a long roadl..

    Sheryl

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    Yes, it's a long a often winding road! How'd it go this week, Sheryl?

    Has Sarah binged on Xanax and liquor? Her best friend's cousin died from a Xanax overdose, and that doesn't seem to wake her up?!?....wow.
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    Hi Sheryl,

    I responded to your post on a different thread, but don't know if you've seen it. I'll copy and paste below, and hope it may help.

    In addition to that, I wanted to add something. You NEED to let go of any "guilt" that your past addictions caused your daughter to harm herself. There may be some truth in it, but the guilt is a waste of time and energy - AND - may stand in the way of your helping her to recover. There are many factors that enter into drug addiction, not the least of which is our genetics. And no one can control what genes we pass on to our children.

    Guilt changes us as parents. We don't respond to our children the same way, as a result. We give in too much; we justify and rationalize their inappropriate behavior. We allow them to manipulate us with that blame issue. It's harmful to the child. At some point, we need to recognize that we did what we did because we had a disease - and knew no better at the time. We were sick, not evil. If she throws it up at you, let her know how sorry you are - but - that's no excuse for her continuing on that same track. Tell her, now you are well - now you are there to help her, so blame from the past is useless. It's over, it's done, we can't change the past. So today - is the only place to begin.

    Today, you are clean. You did the hard work to turn this all around. Your daughter is using. She is at high risk, with the combination of drugs she is abusing. Looking the other way may very well cost her life.

    Additionally, you are wise to NOT put yourself into any situation where your precious recovery may be in jeopardy. I was also a cocaine addict (back in the day), and I would NOT have trusted myself around it for a long time in early recovery. Same thing for any number of other drugs that would be tempting. Our disease is still alive and well - no matter how long we've been clean. We are never completely "safe" with addictive drugs. Besides, who needs the mental turmoil of even being around them???

    One final point - learning about someone else's death by similar drugs may possibly break through a layer of denial - which may lead to seeking out recovery. But it isn't a matter of 'waking up' - it's a matter of lifting a bit of the denial to the point of realization that "this, too, could happen to me." As addicts, as you know, we think we can handle it better than the next person. That very common trait of "uniqueness" keeps our denial that much deeper. We tell ourselves that we can control it - long after we can not.

    Below is my post from the thread, "rehab":

    Dear Sheryl,

    Teen Challenge is a highly respected Christian organization that helps teens with substance abuse issues. Yes, there are centers in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Here is a link to their website for more information: http://teenchallengeusa.com/

    What we can do as parents is limited, but we are not completely powerless when our child has an addiction problem. First off, try to get involved with a local Alanon or Naranon group, which are designed for the loved ones of addicts. That is a place where you can gain invaluable support and direction. In addition, through these programs, we learn what we CAN do, and what we CAN'T do.

    One major thing we can do is to stop enabling the addict in our lives. Addicts NEED people around them that help them to continue to abuse drugs. When that help (enabling) isn't there, we can increase the chances that they will have to fully face the consequences of their addiction. And that's what generally brings an addict to their ultimate "bottom" - and ready to seek out help with recovery.

    Our enabling goes a lot further than most of us realize. When we are aware that our child is abusing ILLEGAL drugs with their friends, NOT reporting that to the police is ENABLING them to continue. Yes, if it is your child's life on the line, don't hesitate to utilize law enforcement to bring about their "bottom."

    Also, you may want to speak with someone who is well-versed in substance abuse about the possibility of staging an "intervention" to facilitate getting your daughter into treatment. Although the tv show has made this process visible, it is not exactly the same as you see on tv. Nevertheless, it IS possible, and it often DOES help. Contact your local mental health department or a professional working in substance abuse.

    * * * When a child's life is at risk, there may also be legal proceedings that you may take to compel the child to seek treatment. It depends upon your state's laws. (In Massachusetts, it is MGL Chapter 123) When a person is deemed to be a "danger to themselves" as a "substance abuser," some states allow a parent to be granted permission to compel treatment. (It's up to 30 days in MA.) You might do some research via the internet to find out the laws in your area - or contact an attorney. The local police may NOT be aware of this law, as it is generally enforced by the courts, not the police. * * *

    The idea that we are completely without options as parents is not quite accurate. We are limited, but not powerless. If my child were in such a risky situation, I'd do anything necessary to save their life.

    God bless,
    Ruth

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    Thanks for your input Ruth, this one had me walking the line of my perimeter of knowledge.

    I don't know much beyond the technicalities that Xanax + Alcohol = Potentially Life-Threatening CNS Depression. Where to go from the acute phase, I am not well versed.

    Sheryl, Ruth is an expert in the field of addiction. Although I am becoming increasingly knowledgeable of drugs, their interactions and the like, I am no such addiction expert.
    I'll defer to her, now as to the go-to person for your any addiction problems.
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    thank you Ruth, so much for that..i needed it very much, i know i should never put myself at risk to use again and i was at risk for a few days..

    my daughter is sick right now, with a stomach virus, she spent all of yesterday at the emergency room..i'm trying to find out if they did a drug test on her, i was not with her, i was actually at another hospital er for a sinus/ear infection...if they did a test and it showed up positive for drugs, which i know it would, especially for weed and benzos, i wonder if they would have to report it to authorities, such as police or CPS..

    this is a daily thing, i have accepted that the very best i can do for her right now is pray for her...i have facebook and i always post something positive for her each day, it helps me have hope and faith that this will someday pass and she will have a good life...

    i'm asking everyone who has replied for their prayers, she is a precious girl and i just feel there is always hope, you know?

    thanks again!
    love, sheryl

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockermom51 View Post
    thank you Ruth, so much for that..i needed it very much, i know i should never put myself at risk to use again and i was at risk for a few days..

    my daughter is sick right now, with a stomach virus, she spent all of yesterday at the emergency room..i'm trying to find out if they did a drug test on her, i was not with her, i was actually at another hospital er for a sinus/ear infection...if they did a test and it showed up positive for drugs, which i know it would, especially for weed and benzos, i wonder if they would have to report it to authorities, such as police or CPS..

    this is a daily thing, i have accepted that the very best i can do for her right now is pray for her...i have facebook and i always post something positive for her each day, it helps me have hope and faith that this will someday pass and she will have a good life...

    i'm asking everyone who has replied for their prayers, she is a precious girl and i just feel there is always hope, you know?

    thanks again!
    love, sheryl
    Are you sure it's a virus? It might just be really bad withdrawal from alcohol and Xanax. Either way, she's where she needs to be. I hope she gets better soon and you both continue down the right path.
    Peter

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    rockermom51...

    At 17 your daughter has certain legal, binding obligations to you, her PARENT. Until a child is 18, depending on the state they live in, the parent has CONTROL (legally) on where the child lives, and, basically, what the child does.
    The point of what I'm saying is, get your beautiful, talented daughter into a program of some sort BEFORE she is 18 years old, because at 18 a teen is not bound in many ways by a parents control anymore. You are the one who decides the destiny of your daughter...DO IT before it is too late. I have a brother who's beautiful, talented daughter recently turned 18 and was going the direction your's did. My brother is kicking himself for not getting her into a boot camp or something similar before she turned 18.
    Get your daughter into a boot camp before she is 18 where she will learn how to live and not die! While she is 17, in most states, the police will go pick her up and throw her into a boot camp or program of the PARENT'S CHOICE per the mom's or dad's wishes. Many programs will go and forcefully take the teenage child to their program when the parent decides that that is where they want her. It IS possible But DON'T wait. This is a life or death matter!
    mytroubledteen.com is one suggestion, purposedrivencamp.com is another, there are HUNDREDS of good places to SEND your daughter before she turns 18...DO IT NOW!

    I'm Ricky & I'm NOT an addict!

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    Teen Challenge...YES! Take Ruth's advise...quickly! Find out your abilities to forcefully put your daughter into something...anything! Call your local police, get a free or cheap lawyer consult, just find out what you can do to place her somewhere whether she wants to go or not (more likely not). Teen Challenge's website is a great place to start! Do It, do it, do it!

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    Dear Sheryl,

    Haven't seen you posting here for several weeks, and just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you. How are things going with your daughter? And with you? I hope you'll be back to post. I'll keep both of you in prayer.

    Hugs,
    Ruth
    (Momma to 14, so I DO understand a mom's love!)

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    rockermom51, are you still out there? I'm dealing with a similar situation with my husband and have a question.

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