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    I take Xanax for anxiety and ran out so took a Valium, which didn't do a thing. I'm wondering why it didn't work like the Xanax. They are both benzodiazepines; the Valium wasn't expired and is even a slightly higher dosage. Has anyone else experienced this?

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    How many mg's of xanax were you taking a day? The reason the valium may not have helped you in that case was that you had built a tolerance to benzo's. You see, xanax and valium are not in proportion concerning mg's. ~.5 Xanax = 10 mg valium respectivly. I take Xanax XR 2-5 mg's a day, depending on whats going on that day, and I know that one 10 mg valium (highest dose concerning 1 pill) will not effect me to where I can detect it. As you probably know, these classes of drugs (bezodiazepines) are addictive in many ways, but what we are talking about here is tolerance. Addiction in this case means you will eventually have to keep raising the dose of xanax/valium/klonopin to achieve the feeling you got in the beginning. Hope this helps. Also xanax has a much shorter half life than valium. xanax has about a 4-6 hour half life where valium has about a 12 hour half life. This means xanax will stop working sooner than valium, when doses are proportional, and will require you to take more pills/day which contributes to tolerance/addiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickkedkitten View Post
    I take Xanax for anxiety and ran out so took a Valium, which didn't do a thing. I'm wondering why it didn't work like the Xanax. They are both benzodiazepines; the Valium wasn't expired and is even a slightly higher dosage. Has anyone else experienced this?
    Xanax is a faster-acting drug, but wears off much faster as well. Valium has a slow, smooth delivery, and has a calming effect for 4-8 days, as long as you take enough of them, like 40-60 MG'S should do it.

    Personally I like Valium much better, take the proper dose until you are sleepy, and then it will help you sleep well for several days in a row, get you through a rough period, and then you'll be ready to rock and roll again.

    Ativan is similar to Xanax, except it helps prevent siezures if you need it for that.

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    The other posts are correct. Check out this table. http://www.benzo.org.uk/bzequiv.htm

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    I don't know the details, but yeah, required dosage differs wildly between benzos. I learned that the hard way after doing 6mgs of Ativan, which is about the same as my usual recreational dose of Valium (I'm little though, I think it's more for most people) and I don't remember anything for about 16 hours after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickkedkitten View Post
    I take Xanax for anxiety and ran out so took a Valium, which didn't do a thing. I'm wondering why it didn't work like the Xanax. They are both benzodiazepines; the Valium wasn't expired and is even a slightly higher dosage. Has anyone else experienced this?
    i been having the same problem i took 100mg of diazepam and yet still dont feel the effects of my xanax which was only about 10mg

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    well Xanax is much stronger by looking at the benzo chart. It comes on fast and strong which is good for immediate situations. Valium is a very mellow benzo which comes on slowly and only makes you feel "relaxed" but it also last much longer depending on the dose it could last all day and the next day you could still feel drowsy for most of the day. Look into Klonapin also.
    Last edited by Anonymous; 02-05-2010 at 02:46 AM.

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    Just wanted to post a note to let you know that benzodiazepene drugs (valium, klonopin, xanax, ativan, etc.) are NOT intended to be used on any kind of a long term, daily basis. They are NOT intended for use for the basic anxiety of day-to-day life. They are meant for short-term acute anxiety. Please read the drug information on this site, to learn more about these drugs.

    From my own experience, that class of drugs is a nightmare to stop. Even when taken "as prescribed," there is a long, difficult detox. The less time you are taking them - and the lower the dose - the better.

    All the best,
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    I've had docs tell me that valium is generally used for muscle spasms, the others are for nerves. I have found they work differently also.

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    Default Appreciate your concern however! Not all the information provided here is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARTIST658 View Post
    Just wanted to post a note to let you know that benzodiazepene drugs (valium, klonopin, xanax, ativan, etc.) are NOT intended to be used on any kind of a long term, daily basis. They are NOT intended for use for the basic anxiety of day-to-day life. They are meant for short-term acute anxiety. Please read the drug information on this site, to learn more about these drugs.

    From my own experience, that class of drugs is a nightmare to stop. Even when taken "as prescribed," there is a long, difficult detox. The less time you are taking them - and the lower the dose - the better.

    All the best,
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    I agree with you Ruth that these drugs are a nightmare to get off of. However they are in fact prescribed to patients for long term use. Usually it’s Xanax, and the reason that are scripted for long term use is some people do have chronic long term acute anxiety and they can not make it through their day without having a panic attack. The 2mg are usually the ones prescribed to be taken at the FDA and Board of Pharmacy standards. They should be taken no more than 3 times a day. And the reason that we script Xanax is because it’s a fast acting drug and out of your system pretty quick. But if you keep them on a regular regimen because they do prevent patients from having severe panic attacks not panic attacks all together they are just good for panic attacks in general. I have been on them since I was 17 years old 2MG three times a day because one I have hypertension diagnosed at 17 and the anxiety attacks are a part of that hypertension. When I work I do not take my Xanax I take a drug called Atarax which is an antihistamine and an anti-anxiety Drug. Also they are safer to take and drive on or work like I do. I’m a trauma surgeon so having a steady hand and not getting stressed and shaky from an acute panic attack since mine are very severe the Atarax really helps even more than the Xanax. The Xanax are really good for sleep as I usually take 4mg of Xanax and 25mg of Atarax that helps me sleep like a baby. Now if you have to discontinue the Xanax it’s best to have a detox center close or a physician that can prescribe you something to help with the post scripted Xanax. But just to inform you when you say that Xanax or Valium is not good for long term use, it’s best for people who have chronic anxiety to keep on a normal regime and not just take as a prn Drug. Have a good day!

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    They are and also a great pre-op Drug!

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    100mg of Diazepam is way too much and 10mg of Xanax is asking to go to sleep and never wake up especially taking 100mg and 10mg at once. I can’t tell you the number of patients I’ve seen who have been brought to the trauma bay from only taking 6-8mg of Xanax at once or taking 100mg of Diazepam and they got a free ticket to the morgue. Just letting you know that even if people use both drugs as recreational then like any drug they can be like venomous snakes

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    Hello DNB, welcome to the forum, you are posting to an old thread from 2009. I didn't know if you were waiting for a response. Again welcome.
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