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    KarenGeorgeBSRN is offline New Member
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    Default Duragesic

    Hi Ya'll,

    I was doing some research on the patch for I have been on it many years for NIP (nonmalignant intractable pain), and several other medications.

    Without pain management my CNS shuts down; in short I will die. I have several disorders that rival end stage cancer pain; researched on the McGill Pain scale one is 82 x worse pain then end-stage cancer pain.

    However, what makes me smile is a key facet or variable of patch administration:

    (1) Fatty absorption; if you are thin (as I am) the patch does not
    in the brand or Sandoz form absorb properly.

    (2) My medications are 100% paid meaning after this time receiving
    a similar batch of ineffective 50 mcg/hour brand Duragesic (about
    killing me for 2.5 months) and luckily also use 75 mcg/hour (those
    have not been problematic at this time I ordered Mylan.

    Within 20 minutes I began to sense less pain and this is incredible.
    I cannot tell you how I will react 10 hours from now or perhaps
    in 36 hours for due to my low body fat ratio I require more. Please
    alert your PM specialist to this; for the regular gel based patch to
    absorb it must be put on fatty tissue, then the small blood vessels
    pick it up in a time released fashion and eventually it is transported
    to the part of the brain that is then tricked to believe you are not
    experiencing "conscious pain."

    I do run pain support lists and am a very busy person but for anyone
    having difficulty you may email me at ToughYou@aol.com and our
    pain forums are closed by interview only. Those in denial of chronic
    pain lasting are not good candidates for our list(s) for we remain
    small and are very hardcore painers as we call ourselves.

    Chronicity does allow for a new identity but you must have quality of
    life. Drug tolerance does not indicated ADDICTION which is a craving
    for a substance in excess of it's purpose to the point of insanity,
    overdose and death.

    Furthermore one cannot blame those few incidences of death due to
    overdose on all licensed professionals and or those few who do abuse.

    Hope all have a wonderful, painfree, day!

    God Bless!

    Karen G.

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    Default Mylan Followup

    Hi Everyone:

    My Mylan experience is not going well I just emailed
    my physician.

    1. Am having what seems to be physical reactions

    2. Pain relief is not the same.

    3. I use two strengths and did get brand on one which
    does as it normally does.

    I truly did not hope for this outcome but am sharing it.

    Thanks,

    Karen G.

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    I am having a hard time with the mylan patch,my pharmacy changed brands and I can't remember the brand I was on before,They were bigger than the mylan ones and did not stick well but they took my pain away, you could see the gel on the middle. Does anyone know what generic brand these ones are ,Please let me know ,I think it may have been sandoz but not sure . Feel free to email me at kpzeus3@yahoo.com thanks

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    Talking Saving Grace...



    Let me start by saying, where have these Fentanyl Patches been all my life?! (Okay, not ALL my life, but since my wreck). They have literally been a saving grace. This is the first time in YEARS I haven't dealt with horrid pain on a daily basis! I had honestly forgotten what it was like. This is my first week on them, and I may be speaking too soon, but I'm amazed. For anyone scared to take them (as I was), if you follow the directions, you should be just fine. I do still have Vicodin for breakthrough pain, but haven't had to use them as I had been. The peaks and valleys I was experiencing are gone... I just can't say enough about them.

    To those of you who have gotten relief from them, congrats!

    For those of you who didn't/couldn't--I sincerely apologize and hope you find SOMETHING to help.

    One question, though... I've noticed that some of you have said to clean your skin with alcohol before applying the patch, and others recommend using a hair dryer... On the pamphlet that came with my patches, it specifically says not to do either of those things. Any idea why? Will it cause too much of the medication to be released at one time? I'm asking because I'm having trouble with the adhesive (only around the edges) and need to try something--but I don't want to have to simply throw away any b/c of a technique not working. I'm hoping those of you who have been on the Fentanyl Patches for a long time could give me a few tips.

    Thanks, God bless, && Much Sympathy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moodstar53 View Post
    Hello,...................

    .......As with my father, we didn't find out all the risks (the doctor did not tell us or get our informed consent) and before we knew it, my dad was starting to have symptoms which included sweating profusely, coughing, hallucinating, and worst of all, difficulty breathing, or depressed breathing and hypoventilation. These were warned about in the insert (I found out too late) and also on the Janssen website. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................... Do not believe that you can "cut" these things to lower the dosage--that is definitely a no-no. Janssen is soon to market a 12.5 mcg patch which is half of the lowest dosage. The 25 mcg proved fatal to my father, and there was nothing to "wean" down to. Most of all, MY FATHER WAS NOT IN ANY PAIN THAT EVEN JUSTIFIED HIM PRESCRIBING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! These patches are being used to get high, as a murder weapon, and as a tool to commit suicide. My guess that before it's over, all these patches will be banned.
    While I feel for your loss, I have to disagree with you completely. I have a very severe form of FMS and other issues and if you had it your way, I'd still bedrideen as a 27 year old. What a life I might have. Though I doubt I would, as the pain is so much without the fentanyl patches, I would have likely ended my life long before, as death would be the only relief left to me.

    I read your post and it seems to me your father died more then likely from an irresponsible doctor who perscribed an inappropriate medication incorrectly without following FDA and manufactorer laws and guidelines. You're generalizing. ALL medications can kill if not prescribed or taken appropriately. According to you, your father wasn't in any pain to begin with. If that's true, then I have to assume he was not on any sort of oppiod prior to his hospitalization. Which would immedietly exclude him from fentanyl anyway, as it's not for those who are not already oppiod tolerant. Time and again you indicate that this doctor did not do his job according to the law and proper prescribing guidelines. He did not get consent. He did not prescribe appropriately. He obviously did not inform everyone of possible side effects and of the warning signs of overdose. Personally, I don't take any medicaiton without reading it's litature first, then go online and research it some more. And that's in addition to whatever discussion I had with my doctor AND my pharmasist. NO one should take a doctor's word for it, I'm sorry. They aren't god. They are human and make mistakes, your case a perfect example. I don't mean to be cruel, it just seems a lot of people dropped the ball on this, and your father died as a result.

    As for cutting them...anyone whose cutting them is doing so inappropriate uses. You can't blame the patch. It takes a person to abuse it. Any medication can be abused, even tylonal. If we were to take your reasoning into account, we wouldn't have any medications, because someone might abuse them, a doctor might screw up, and someone might die. And just screw all the potentional good these medicaitons might do for thousands and thousands of other people who take the medication as prescrbed by a responsible doctor for appropriate illnesses.

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    Default fentanyl patches - DIFFERENCES IN BRANDS [my personal experience]

    My story
    I have a very severe case of fibromyalgia and myofacial pain syndrom. After years of NSAIDs and other medications, at one point as many as 15 medications and drugged into a zombie state, I found my way to a great pain management doctor who understood that sometimes a single, heavier bat just might be better if you're swinging blindly with 15 smaller ones. This was before lyrica. For the first time in years, I had pain relief, and was down to only 3 medications. I could actually THINK! Hold conversations. GET OUT OF BED!!!!

    I started on 50mcg, changed every 72 hours. But because I have little body fat, and have a tendancy to run fevers, we had to adjust that to first every 60 hours, then to every 48 hours. I now have the freedom to change it between 60-48, as it depends on if I'm running a lot of fevers and how many showers I take, etc. I'm not sure what body fat has to do with it, but my pharamsist made mention of a study that indicated those with little body fat tended to require changes sooner with the fentanyl patch. 4 years later, we did have to raise it to 75mcg. But I take no breakthrough medications, other then lyrica, which isn't really for breakthrough, but for the type of pain that fentanyl was never designed to treat. Compared to short acting opiods where the pain would return too soon before the next scheduled dose, with fentanyl, I've never felt the need or urge to take more medication then prescribed. In fact, during my good weeks, I can often push the scheduled change time for up to 8 hours later, depending.


    Fentanyl Brand Comparison's: My Experience
    I have tried several brands of fentanyl transdermal, including Duragesic, Sandoz, Watson Labs, and Mylan. What I've found is that despite claims to the contrary, in this case there are differences between them, in the types of plastic, adhesive, carrier for the medication and cell-whatever backing. What's important to understand is that those differences are highly specialized and subjective to the patient.

    Personally, I prefer MYLAN brand over all the others, including brand name -- while several of the pharmacist's I've used over the years tell me very few of their patients care for it.

    Personally, I prefer the MYLAN brand because the 75mcg patch is HALF THE SIZE as the other brand's patches. It is also made of a softer plastic - this means it tends to bend with my movement better (so it doesn't get ripped off the first time I bend over) and most importantly, it does not cut into my skin.

    Because of muscle movement or my long hair getting caught, I'm very limited to where I can place the patches anyway. When I've been forced to switch back to one of the other generic brands, my skin ends up callused, sore, and cut up from the edges. My stomach becomes inflamed and red from the edges cutting into the skin. Not to mention I am also more prone to yeast infections on the skin because of the constant damp status of the skin under the patches. With the Mylan brand, I have 4 places on my stomach that can take turns, and only 2 with the other brands.

    I found the Mylan brand adhesive sticks better on my skin then the others, rarely needing tape. But I also have several friends who found this not to be true, which makes me suspect it is subjective to your individual chemical make up, skin type, and what you secreate in your sweat.

    And I rarely have to get out the adhesive remover (read: goop off); soap and water works just fine.

    And finally, as far as pain, I personally found mylan to release the medication more evenly. Perhaps because unlike all the other brands, it is not filled with that clear gel as a carrier for the fentanyl? Not sure. It doesn't seem as affective by a hot shower or fever as the others. And just seemed to cover the pain in a more consistant fashion. But again, I've heard others say the opposite.

    As for a difference between the other generics compared to brand, I did notice that some stick better then others, and some didn't seem to transfer the medication as well. I'm also not thrilled with Watson Lab's little tab on their patch, as it's just another thing to cut and irritate the skin, and to get caught on something and pull the patch off.

    I did not notice any of the other more common side effects, like chronic constipation, dry mouth, etc, any worse or better with any of the brands.

    I actually have to get my pharmasist to order my Mylan patches, because he only has 3 of us who prefer them while all his other customers like the others.

    So I guess in the end, my advice to anyone who is on fentanyl patches: you may need to try several of the generics before you find the one that works best for YOU. Ignore the pharmacists or doctors who insist they are all the same. How can that be true of the carrier system (no gel) for the Mylan brand, for example, is completely different then the other generics? And it's plastic is different? And I'm certain the adhesives are different for all the brands. It makes a difference. It's just what difference will it make for YOU, personally.

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    Default brands of fentanyl patch

    Quote Originally Posted by md2003 View Post
    I just went for my generic, and it was SANDOZ...and not only does itlook the same, but so far it works the same, and I'm pleased with the $130.00 discount. My Dr. said there should be a geniric that you are able to cut in half, thereby able to wean yourself off slowly.does, or has any one seen or used a patch that you can cut in half?....I have a feeling it's the solid one, but who is the munufacturer of the solid one. I only know of 2 MYLAN, which is not what I recieved, and SANDOZ which idid recieve from LONG's Drugs . Are there any other generic'c's I'm not aware of?
    I'm in the midwest USA and know of and have tried the following brands:

    Brand Name & Origional Version
    1. Duragesic

    Generic's
    2. Sandoz
    3. Watson Labs (Same as Duragesic & Sandoz but it has a little tab on the edge which is suppose to help you apply it but in my experience is just another thing to cut into your skin and get caught on something, ripping the patch off)

    4. Mylan (Different carrier system, not the gel. Softer plastic and smaller. But I haven't heard anything about cutting them.)

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    Default Some advice on switching brands

    I'm reading a lot of folks who say they find that one brand or another doesn't seem to to absorb as well when they switch from another brand.

    It has been my experience that this will happen with any of the brands. As if it takes a few days for your body to adjust to the different delivery system. I am unable to put my patches anywhere but my stomach most of the time, on those occasions I am forced to put it elsehwere, either because I haven't been able to get Mylan brand for a while, and my stomach is so sore and yeasty I can't bare the thought of slapping another Sandoz or Watson Labs there again, or I'm in a hospital and the nurse over rules me.....Because I use the same spots often, I've found that when I do switch, even if it's the same brand, I have trouble the first few days. I don't have any clue if this is the case, but it's almost as if blood vessles move toward the surface of where you normally where your patch, making absorbtion easier. Suddenly change to a completely new place, and it's as if you have to wait until the area becomes 'trained' to it.

    It's been the same way with new brands, in my exprerience, especially when I'm forced to switch back and forth between mylan and sandoz/watson. If I've been on mylan for a while, and for some reason can't get it, and forced to use one of the other 2 generics, I have break through for several days, until my body adjusts. Then I go through it again when I switch back to mylan.

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    Smile dutch girl

    I have been using various Fentanyl patches for approx. 5 years. My favorite is the Mylan brand. I am now using the 75, but have used 50s and 100s. Showering is no problem whatsoever. Too hot a bath can be a problem, in that it can cause a surge of medicine. I change my patches every 48 hours instead of 72, and it relieves maybe 75% of my pain, which is from multiple ruptured and bulging discs. I find the Mylan stay on best and won't puncture. They do itch, but they all do. I use the sticky pad by Tegaderm to help it stay on, and reduce the itching.

    I hope this helps someone.
    deb

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    Smile dutch girl

    I have been using various Fentanyl patches for approx. 5 years. My favorite is the Mylan brand. I am now using the 75, but have used 50s and 100s. Showering is no problem whatsoever. Too hot a bath can be a problem, in that it can cause a surge of medicine. I change my patches every 48 hours instead of 72, and it relieves maybe 75% of my pain, which is from multiple ruptured and bulging discs. I find the Mylan stay on best and won't puncture. They do itch, but they all do. I use the sticky pad by Tegaderm to help it stay on, and reduce the itching.

    I hope this helps someone.
    deb

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpzeus3 View Post
    I am having a hard time with the mylan patch,my pharmacy changed brands and I can't remember the brand I was on before,They were bigger than the mylan ones and did not stick well but they took my pain away, you could see the gel on the middle. Does anyone know what generic brand these ones are ,Please let me know ,I think it may have been sandoz but not sure . Feel free to email me at kpzeus3@yahoo.com thanks
    I think the brand you are talking about is Sandoz. They are very similar to Duragesic's patches.

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    Default Question of Balance

    A disturbing trend in health care is the lack of compassion partly due to the fear that has acclimatized itself in the ER and most Doctor offices. When someone has been taking or prescribed the Duragesic/ Fentynal patch that person has been through a great deal of suffering. And when someone is going through withdrawals from this patch. To have Er nurses be so callus to say you won't die from withdrawals is a very cold and false thing to say. I have had two patients describe to me the very cold and inhumane way they were treated in the States.

    You can die from taking cold medicine you can die from otc medication that is far less potent than Fentynal. Fentynal is 100 times stronger than Morphine and 70 times stronger than >>>>>>. Fentynal absorbs into your system on such a path if effect your breathing you heart. People die from Cardiac arrhythmia from taking Sudefed it is such a ********py thing to say to a patient that is suffering from withdrawal and to look upon them as if they were an anathema. Aren't nurses supposed to be caring and supportive? The Er should
    be able to call the pharmacy to see how long a patient has been prescribed this medication if the Dr. cannot be located. And then given the proper medication to help them ease there way out of there pain.

    This >>. a nurse taking a stance that it wont kill you, it sure does and sure has in over 10k cases in the states. I just don't understand do some nurses enjoy watching someone in pain? Are some Er. Doctors that afraid of prescribing medicine many times this is the last resort for so many people. Who don't want to be humiliated but then don't want to be such agony and possibly die such a painful death. This one patient actually went into cardiac arrest while waiting in the Er because a nurse decided she was an addict. She had been prescribed 100 mcg of Duragesic for that past three years w/ Oxycontin medication for breakthrough pain. It is quite terrible when you are in such pain and a history can be easily identified and you could of saved someone from such extreme torture that resulted in heart damage. This isn't a medication to fool around w/ at all.

    And when you have the prevailing storms in the ER with a vortex of nurses that vilify patients and pass this along to influential ER Drs. is abhorrent behavior and I have found out this happens more times than not. You have the worst care for patients in pain due to fear or some other agenda that is driving this behavior Drs. Shouldn't live in fear if they help there patients our of pain and nurses should not bring this callus agenda to a health care atmosphere! One should access the situation and care for each individual on a case by case basis. Regardless of what they feel to the contrary some people require medication to help them through. Should I live in fear for prescribing Xanax or any other anti-psychotic drug to help a patient in need?
    Absolutely not I should be able to do my job to help heal my patients and keep them out of distress or pain and give them to tools to do so and along the way many require and would not make it w/out an aid. So I prescribe aids to help my patients along, and I do not look down upon them. I do not frown upon there symptoms and make them feel less than human.

    Oh it makes my blood boil when I hear that one of my patients have been treated w/ such deliberate, dismissive and in a heartless way. Why should such treatment ever be tolerated?

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    taper dose gradually to D/C if at risk for physical dependence (abrupt cessation of opioids may cause a withdrawal syndrome including restlessness, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, mydriasis, lacrimation, rhinorrhea, sneezing, yawning, sweating, incr. body temp, chills, piloerection, myalgia, backache, arthralgia, weakness, abdominal and muscle cramps, muscle twitching, anorexia, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, incr. BP, respiratory rate, heart rate)
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    Thumbs up Mylan patch issues, dont stick or dont seem to work

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenDD View Post
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    Ive never posted before so hopefully this works
    I switched from methadone to the fentanyl patch early last month since methadone is a blocker of other opioids I had to get thru all the withdrawls and took about a month, before the patch can even work and to have a bit of normalcy. still adjusting.
    MYLAN PATCH
    the past 2 weeks is when it seemed the 1st day was the best then day two not like day one but day 3 Its as if the mylan patch stops working cause actually early day 4 is 72 hrs but I will feel cold yet sweaty hands and feet cant sleep, Im up then sleep for 2 hrs and thats with taking an ambien and small dose of clonazapam and the pain is unbearable its as if you have withdralws while your on the patch. It does not seem to be consistent if you look at your packaging inside there is a chart and shows alot of peaks and lows, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
    The pharmacist says its common and some people are prescribed to change their patch at day 2
    if you still have pain on your dose your dr should increase you, unless you have a dr like mine at a pain clinic and they dont listen and think they are you and know how you feel.
    if you have issues with that and your at a pain clinic find out who the patient advocate is so you can have them intervene and they will halp you thru your discrepancies (usually)
    For those who can not get the patch to stay on,MYLAN will provide patch covers at no expense to you. I called on april 6th 2010 you just need to provide the lot number on the bottom of your box. Anythiong else you tell them they get your info and report it to the FDA (problems/concerns)
    while you wait for your patches you can go to wallgreens its about $9.00 and they are called
    tegaderm patches they work perfectly however when I told mylan about what I was using she almost robotically insisted on the brands that they are providing but drs say its fine they are clear and stick thru long showers even if you have a shower like mine with high water pressure. without them the patch would start to lift around the edges on day 1. hospitals use them to hold IVS and can often give you them too.
    TO CALL MYLAN:1 877 446 3679
    its on the box.

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    Default mylan patches

    I have been using these patches for about 6 years-they are about the only thing that has helped, I also have some problems with them not lasting quite 72 hours-especially if I am very active of if it is very hot out because your body temp affects the rate of absortion-when this happens i get the same symptoms you mention. I count the 72 hours as-if i put a new patch on mon i change on before bed wed if it is hot or i have been active or hold out until thurs am. A trick I have found to help keep the patch on because i am allergic to most tapes and paper tape doesn't work. I use a blow dryer to warm my skin before i put the patch on -gently press the patch on from middle to edges-seems to even out the adhesive-then give the patch a quick shot of the blow dryer then press the patch again. Hope this helps

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    I am a newbie on this site and am glad it's here although it doesn't seem very busy. I fractured my C-4 thru C6-7 discs into 3 lge. pieces. My head was down and locked in dorsiflexion.Felt like God was pushing my head into my neck! My husband and my parents said i looked like a turtle. Thx! My right arm had paraethesia transdermally- worst in my forefinger, and middle finger,The nail beds in these fingers were 'blanched' like someone had a stick and was pushing down onto them. The pain in and next to the bones from my neck -into my shoulder, clavicle and down into my humerus and forearm was unbearable! I incurred this in an on the job injury in my 20's.... and this was a result of that..i was a nurse and my life was all but ended that evening as i entered a vortex of pain which seemed to be un-relievable. There were no MRI's as this was 1982. Trtmnt. modality was for PT to come in and attach me to one of the old electric intermittent traction machines.and i would scream like a burn pt. while this went on for a wk.ywice a day. Finally the neuro man said i needed a diskectomy, This was also, after a very painful Myelogram where the neuro guy had problems getting the trocar into my back even after standing on a foot stool using all of his weight to get in on the 3rd 'stab'. The second trocar he threw across the room in frustration. After the diskectomy my fingers were still numb, The pain was not much better and i still couldn't turn my head from side to side.For a year and a half i had to keep my hands on my hips and prop myself up against walls when i left the house. Still had my head pushing down. I obviously couldn't work. Finally went to a big city where in an 8 hr. surgery they removed the pieces of discs the other Doc left but, were of no use as they were compressing nerve roots. Took bone from my hip and fed pieces into the disc spaces and used some laterally for stability. When i woke up it was a little better but, my fingers were still 'asleep' and my hand was cold and dk and still the dead fingers.. Would still over the yrs. have to rock back on my heels and keep my hands on my hips or the pain was worsened. Doing this i was putting extra wt. on my lumbar discs. Those blew from l-3 thru S-1 in the '90's...another diskectomy. Now, have been told i need to be 're-built' but, as a result of the previous surgeries i have bad scar tissue with multiple osteophyte formations which in some cases have grown into the nerve root. I don't want more surgery.This is serious business....messing with someone's spine and i have seen Doc's take someone like me and say oh, how much they could improve my pain situation then, they load them down with a bunch of plates, screws or baskets and then kick them to the curb when they R through and give them Darvocet N-100, mif they were lucky, I have also, been diagnosed with RSDS and my right arms is now cyanotic and cold and hurts like h***. It got so bad in the early to mid 90's that i had to be put on disability. I was trapped in one position-'slouched' out in a recliner on a heating pad with another heating pad wrapped around my right lower arm and hand. There were months that i sat looking at the clock thinking....."Should i do it now? (Kill myself) I'd say "Try to go on for 1 more minute" This went on for months. Finally, a very close friend told me angrily one day that she could bear to see me suffering NO more! Her husband had been put on a patch. I was on Oxycontin and hated the way they made me feel. Groggy and tired. My Dr. had already posed the patch to me but, i refused it as i had no luck with an Estrogen patch which wouldn't stay on...figured this one wouldn't either, It got so bad i finally agreed and he put me on Duragesic 75 mcgs.q 72 hrs. About the 7th patch i began to notice significant relief! ARM stayed cyanotic but, the pain was SO much improved! I was alive again! My Dr. was beaming one day a few mnths. into therapy and he said, "I didn't know U could smile....had never seen it!" This went on for about 5 wonderful yrs. I got to thinking maybe i could go down on them. My Doc didn;t want me to but i was 'hard-headed' and since it felt so much better thought that maybe finally my body was healing itself, WRONG! And into my 2nd month Janssen went to that 'matrix' system and THOSE did nothing for me except trigger me into withdrawa syndrome. I talked to my pharmacist and told him what was happening and he said that Watson made the patches with the old gel system.
    They don't work or stick like the Janssen ones did.Pain is obly about 30% controlled and they only last about 40 hrs. and i am nauseated and sick. Has anyone had this experience in here? What did you do? Did U report your problems to Janssen? The Janssen patches worked perfectly for me. I could get into a swimming pool and get them wet and they stayed on...plus, they held my pain so well that at times i could keep one on for an extra day. I had to do that because i live in 'Hurricane Alley' and after Rita my Doc went to another state where he had another home for mandatory evacuation, and then, had a heart attack.I had lost the roof on my house,too. I went to the ER and as U said, 'Outreach Council', was treated like a murderer or something. The Doc was angry and abusive.I NEVER treated anyone with malice when they complained of pain as i knew what it felt like. He said "A back problem is NOT an emergency situation!" U won't die from pain!" And, stalked off..I live in TX in a sm. town area and most of the Docs i had worked with and knew i wasn't a 'flake' have retired or died by now. But, when there is a hurricane NO ER will help me! They seem to relish their power and enjoy being a sadist when it is just not necessary. So, i went thru 8 wks. of agony. I had saved a few and had kept them on for 5 days but, my Doc didn't make it back for mnths. plus his office was destroyed and he even called one of the ER's for me-that Doc wouldn't write them either. I have seen the Doc's around here undermedicate people for yrs. When U even mention that U R on a patch they get this narrow-eyed, judgemental look on their face and say, "Oh i don't write THAT kind of medicine under ANY circumstances." I'm just little 'ole Dr. A. and i just don't go that!" My Doc died shortly after Rita and I had been smart enough to have some set aside for emergencies. I finally, with God's help, found a very good Doc who is young and apparently well-educated. i am so fortunate to have her for a Doc. But, then, Janssen changed to that stupid 'matrix' system and i have had to use my extras at about one evry 2 mnths. Have hurricane season bearing down on me again and am terrified. It's taken me 2 days and 4 sessions to get this into the forum. I apologize for the length of it and i didn't include ALL of my problems-have 4 screws in my shoulder from an auto incident...No LOL i wasn;t driving. AND i have RSDS in my left leg,too. Just a wreck that needs to be towed to the yard, i guess! Thx for reading and any help or input would be most gratefully received!

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    Did Mylan switch to the new 'matrix' system? No gel? When Janssen did that on me it changed everything...for the worst...am SO sorry to read about evryone being in such pain. It's outrageous how we R treated. Have U tried the Watson brand? It's not on that awful matrix system. Why do they always mess something good up? These patches usually only work if UR looking for a med. where U don't get or want a 'buzz'.....just want pain relief.

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    Default Matrix system NO good

    Quote Originally Posted by RONNIE LECKOW View Post
    I have a feeling, the reason we're not getting the same effect from the solid generic...is because memapausal women don't have enough moisture left in our skin to melt the damn thing down! I contacted Jannsen and they're suppling me with the name brand at no cost. Give them a call...it's worth the effort!
    I think what U R saying has merit. Also, i think if U R a little overweight that these new matrix patches don't work as well. When i was given my first box of the matrix patches ...within a week i was having severe pain and they wouldn't stick well. This matrix system is 'garbage'. Until they changed the format i was given my life back after many yrs. of severe pain from failed back surgeries. I reported my problwms to Janssen who basically said...."Sorry'. I was put on the Watson patches but, they don't stick as well and the last day of the patch cycle i become illAND my pain is terrible. I don't go into the little reservoir. U would be out of patches i would think in no time. Anyone know what to do? The Janssen brand Duragesic is the only one that has worked for me. Am on the Watson brand and it just doesn't last but about 2 days. God Bless All....

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    This is one of the very few generics we get complaints about.
    Peter

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    I appreciate the information you provided, but the only patch that works effectivly enough for my Chronic Pain is Johnson and Johnson patch. Thanks again. Later hypeadoo

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    Angry Looking for Actiq

    I need to find a doctor in my area who prescribes Actiq. I used to see Dr. Tham (for 6 years), but now I need to move on. Can anyone give me the name of a doctor in the Annapolis, MD area? Please, please, please. I used to use Actiq and I really miss it. The patch just doesn't quite do it for those times the pain gets really sharp.
    Help me find it!
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    Red face About Durogesic

    Hello out there.Im in a Suboxone program for detox from >>>>>>e.Everything till now its ok.BUT my position to this program its strong because they have some rules here and all of as in the program we live with the fear to loose it and be on street again with W/D of suboxone....
    A friend of me that get him out from the program and it was in 18mg subs every day,he bay in the black market 3 stickers of Durogesic 50,and he pas the WD of Suboxone and now he is ok.
    I want to tell me if this can happen because im afraid that i have terrible pain because im in the subs treatment 2 years now....
    I want to stop the subs and all the others....
    Did he help me the durogesic??
    You have any suggestion what is better??The 15-25-50-75 durogesic???
    Because i can find some....
    p.s.I dont want to stuck with some other drug....i just want to clear my body from every drug....
    Im desperate what souled i do....
    And if any ones now how many stickers it have the box inside...
    Thanks NIkos.

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    Default Nikos-duragesic patch >> suboxone

    Hi Nikos-
    I'm probably not the best person to respond to this question: I am starting a subox program on august 5th and am nervous about the process also. But, I am not new to addiction and have a lot of knowledge from personal experience (family has many addicts in it) and have done TONS of educational research.
    Is it possible to talk to your subox dr about reducing the amount of subox you take gradually? From what i have read, it is the best way to go in regards to weaning off of this drug. Also, I have a sense that the Greece Dr's do it differently, or have different protocols/rules than the Dr's in the US have. My advice would be to talk to your doc about reducing the subox doses (Robert has amazing advice on this: you could find his posts and read them) before you do anything else.
    The patches of duragesic are extremely strong and extremely addictive. My mom uses them for her terminal condition. I wouldn't recommend going down that road.
    anyways, best of luck to you. hang in there-we will all be thinking positive thoughts for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowildflower View Post
    Hi Nikos-
    I'm probably not the best person to respond to this question: I am starting a subox program on august 5th and am nervous about the process also. But, I am not new to addiction and have a lot of knowledge from personal experience (family has many addicts in it) and have done TONS of educational research.
    Is it possible to talk to your subox dr about reducing the amount of subox you take gradually? From what i have read, it is the best way to go in regards to weaning off of this drug. Also, I have a sense that the Greece Dr's do it differently, or have different protocols/rules than the Dr's in the US have. My advice would be to talk to your doc about reducing the subox doses (Robert has amazing advice on this: you could find his posts and read them) before you do anything else.
    The patches of duragesic are extremely strong and extremely addictive. My mom uses them for her terminal condition. I wouldn't recommend going down that road.
    anyways, best of luck to you. hang in there-we will all be thinking positive thoughts for you
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    Thanks for your reply my friend.In Greece the things with sub is very deference from us.I can say nothing to the doctor.The doctor have start me from 18mg sub pair day before 2 years and im still in 12mg pair day.If i told him do reduce me they do that,but in the mg that he want.I can ask him what to take for the pain when i stop it.[subs]
    I ask him who many people have get of the sub clean and dont come back,and his answer is 2 to 450 people in 4 years....
    I dont have my subs in my home.if i have them i reduce with Robert help.We have speak about it.
    The most guys ho live from the program,and specially for those ho live in hig dosage of subs and not from 2mg or 0mg all have fall back to the >>>>>>e and after 15 days stop the >>>>>>e with 4 pills of 8mg sub...
    I have done this with success in the past but then i was >>>>>>e user and a friend of me give me 4 pills and in 4 days i was of >>>>>>e and subs and everything....now i am 2 years in the program and the doctor scary my that he soot me out because i use some benzo for the sleep.....
    Thats why im ask.I have a friend that quit of sub with 2 stickers of durogesic.I dont have plain to stuck in another drug.I just use 2-3 maxi for help.I just ask if anyone now if the help me.I can find a box of Durogesic 50mg.
    Sould i take them????
    Thanks again.

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    NO don't take any fentanyl patches. That would be the worst thing you could possibly do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
    NO don't take any fentanyl patches. That would be the worst thing you could possibly do.
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    After today....im ready to do anything Robert...and thanks for your help.
    Today the charge me that i break again one of they rules [i use a small dosage of benzo] but because they dont find a reason to soot me out from the program,today they told me that they soot me out from the program.From 12mg sub out to the street.....
    A friend of me that they soot him out from 14mg and we have keep in touch he told me that he stay a week in pain from the WD of subs but after a week a friend give him 2 patches of durogesic [fentanyl] and he pas the WD of sub with no problem...
    Anyway im in discussion with the manager of the program and if he don do anything or i have to soot my head with a gun or i try to live with any way i can!!!!Even that is >>>>>>e or fedanyl or any other sit....
    Thanks Robert for your interesting and your help but there is nothing else i can do....
    Thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by From-Greece-help View Post
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    After today....im ready to do anything Robert...and thanks for your help.
    Today the charge me that i break again one of they rules [i use a small dosage of benzo] but because they dont find a reason to soot me out from the program,today they told me that they soot me out from the program.From 12mg sub out to the street.....
    A friend of me that they soot him out from 14mg and we have keep in touch he told me that he stay a week in pain from the WD of subs but after a week a friend give him 2 patches of durogesic [fentanyl] and he pas the WD of sub with no problem...
    Anyway im in discussion with the manager of the program and if he don do anything or i have to soot my head with a gun or i try to live with any way i can!!!!Even that is >>>>>>e or fedanyl or any other sit....
    Thanks Robert for your interesting and your help but there is nothing else i can do....
    Thanks again...
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    Hello again...if i use some Tramadol just for 5-6 days???It will help me you think???
    Thanks again.Nikos
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    Quote Originally Posted by From-Greece-help View Post
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    Hello again...if i use some Tramadol just for 5-6 days???It will help me you think???
    Thanks again.Nikos



    A few tramadol for 5-6 days is not going to make up for a high dose of subs. It might help a little but not much. You need meds for longer than 5-6 days after the dose you've been on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert_325 View Post
    A few tramadol for 5-6 days is not going to make up for a high dose of subs. It might help a little but not much. You need meds for longer than 5-6 days after the dose you've been on.
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    Robert thanks again.I will ask from them to taper me down as they can....i have about 100mg sub in my home and then i think to use Tramadol.
    I have a doctor support many years and he can give me Lonalgal,but i think Tramadol is more strong.
    Im very confuse with this problem.I dont now where to look and for what so i pas more easy WD....

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    Quote Originally Posted by From-Greece-help View Post
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    Robert thanks again.I will ask from them to taper me down as they can....i have about 100mg sub in my home and then i think to use Tramadol.
    I have a doctor support many years and he can give me Lonalgal,but i think Tramadol is more strong.
    Im very confuse with this problem.I dont now where to look and for what so i pas more easy WD....




    Nikos ........100mg of sub would help you get off to a good start tapering. You were on 12mg so I would drop your dose by 25% every four days. So you would immediately drop to 9mg, do that four days. Then you would reduce to 6.75mg four days, then go to 5.25mg a day for four days. That would get your dose down to a reasonable level. Any subs you had left then you would use up taking 4mg per day until they were gone. Then you would be able to taper the rest of the way with the trams, though I hate seeing you use them. That's my best advice for you to follow. God bless.

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