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    Hi everyone,

    I am posting here for selfish reasons, having lurked around the site for a few days. I have been inspired by the strength of spirit and will shown by the people on these boards. What some of you have had to endure is nothing short of heroic. I'm taking a metaphorical deep breath here...I'm going to write a bit about me, my situation, what's happened so far, and crucially, what happens next. If any of you reply, that's great, and I'll be more than happy to chat/lend an ear/support in any way that I can, but I just want the catharsis of being able to write all this down.

    I live in Scotland, not too far from Glasgow. I am in my 30s, male, happily married with an amazing young family. I have lied to them all for the best part of 3 years, trying to hide my addiction to codeine-based painkillers, and I cannot do it any more.
    I had a serious ankle break back in 2015 and was given lots of codeine pills that kept me warm and fuzzy on the road to recovery. Unfortunately, my tolerance built up quickly, so that by the time I was back to work, I had lied about the extent of my pain to keep my prescriptions going. If I'd been a smart addict, I'd have tried ways to keep that going, but instead turned to stealing my wife's strong co-codamol tablets that she uses for an agonising condition. She didn't use them much, and was happy for me to take them whenever I needed. There were repeat prescriptions available, and as long as I played a bit of a waiting game, I could go an re-order them whenever. I'm not going to go into too much detail here, because it actually disgusts me, the deceptive behaviour, the lying, the stealing her pills and watching her lie in agony. That is as low as I could feel, and yet, it wasn't enough. I would still collect repeats of co-codomol, slip a couple of packs out the box, then seal it back up. Deceptive, deceitful and disgusting. Writing this down appalls me.

    I knew that she'd eventually clock my overuse, so I turned to Nurofen Plus, combining these with the co-codomols. Over time, I turned my attention solely to N+ tablets. As these are weaker, I had to take more and more to feel that same buzzy feeling.

    On top of this, I also suffer from a rare motility disorder, Achalasia. It's when the oesophagus fails to work properly, and food and liquid get trapped at the bottom of it, where the muscle that is supposed to relax to let food pass into the stomach doesn't, and so you're left with a build up of food that doesn't go anywhere, except back up, and bits of it down if you're lucky.

    Anyway, the numbness I felt after consuming piles of N+ meant that I could eat and drink more easily: that was one reason for consuming so much N+. I could justify the horrendous levels of consumption as some kind of eating aid during the bad times with my achalasia condition...madness.

    Last September, I went cold turkey in preparation for a procedure to help me eat more successfully. I managed 10 days, until the day of the operation, and then was given dihydrocodeine for pain relief. Right back to square 1. This past year, I have been building and building my tolerance to this poison once again. Last Saturday I consumed over 600mg of codeine. And that was it. I quit.
    I was so tired of feeling this way. I know my story will sound so familiar, but as I said I'm really writing this down here so I have a tangible record of what I have done.

    In the past, when I've tried to quit, the thing that has stopped me was this: how can I play with my kids without pills? How can I meet up with people without pills? How can I function at the weekends without pills? How can I do my job without pills?

    What I am so determined to do is change that way of thinking: I can play with my kids without pills. I can meet up with friends without pills. I can get loads done without pills. I can strive in my job without pills.

    I cannot think 'what if/how can I'...I must think,'I can/ I will...'

    So, after last Saturday, I took my last few little white demons, and that was it. Now, I hadn't planned on that day, Saturday the 25th of August 2018 as my quit date. It just happened. I think if I'd made 'Day 1' ceremonial, I would have panicked about the anticipation. I kind of sprung it on myself. Cold Turkey. I'd tried tapering with the GP, tried tapering on my own..I had to look at myself and admit that I just don't have the willpower, so it had to be the harder way.

    I'm on day 5, and honestly, apart from a slight sore head and nausea, I'm ok.

    I have been off this week with a really bad flare up of achalasia. I have been off work with that, but also dealing with cold turkey too. It's been a week I never want to repeat. Imagine having diarrhoea when you've literally not eaten or drank anything!

    If I'm ever tempted, I'll come right back here. These words are sobering for me.

    So what's next?

    First thing, I'm going to block out the addict voice that tries to draw you to the 'good times' of the past...you know, the chemically-induced confidence, energy, motivation...

    Because what I remember is that, yes, the initial rush of codeine might give me that little boost and be able to talk to more people, feel less anxious, feel like I'm getting more done, but you know what? The more I think about it, the more I remember the crash when the euphoria leaves you. I'd have to take a mound of pills to feel anything like 'good times', and then they would pass fleetingly, and I'd be left, anxious, panicky, drowsy and worried about where my next strip of pills would be coming from.

    So, to quote a Scottish expression, get it up ye, addict voice!

    Triggers - I need to work out what they are. These are very dangerous for any addict in recovery. Most of us will spot the obvious ones, lit up in neon. It's the sneaky ones that can get you. The bit-players in addict's past. For example, and this is crazy, but if I were to go watch a game of something with friends, I'd pop pills beforehand. Why? I need to work that part out. What am I trying to achieve by popping pills in a safe environment, surrounded by good friends who I am totally relaxed with? I use these drugs to socialise with my social circle. That is messed up.

    Last thing for now that I need to look out for is the mental battle coming. I've read time and time again that the physical withdrawals are relatively easy compared to the cravings, anxiety low moods etc that follow in the foreseeable future.
    I have anxiety and depression (linked to PTSD that only kinda came to light over the summer) and so take anti-depressants and Beta blockers to help with my moods. I'm seriously hoping that taking them will help control any overwhelming feelings that come my way.

    This morning, I stood on the back stairs of my house. The air had a slight autumnal chill to it. I took in a deep breath and smiled at feeling freer that I have in years, but at the same time, anxious as I brace myself for what is yet to come.

    Thanks for reading this. If you want to reply/ask questions etc I'm happy to help!

    Gee

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    I read your post and felt everything you wrote, I could have written it myself. Here in the US they don’t prescribe codeine as much as they do vicodan/percocet, but the end result is the same.

    I have been clean and sober from pills, with ocassional slip ups, for the better part of a year. Prior to that I had several years under my belt. In my case it would take a lot to put me on the full fledged pill taking and seeking bandwagon, but I do still think of my crutch and have slipped up. I can promise you as soon as I slipped up I felt awful. I think we tend to glamorize these pills the further out we get and then we slip and either say “what is the fuss?” or we just full on relapse.

    The best advice I can give you, any of us here can give you, is take one day at a time. You don’t have to worry about what will happen when you go out with your friends just yet. Cross that bridge when you come to it. I think as addicts we learn to be constantly anticipating, wondering, trying to control our future. Now is the time to let go and allow yourself those little moments like breathing in the fresh crisp air. As time goes on, figuring out the bigger stuff will come easier to you and not be as daunting as it is today.

    I am glad you joined us! Please use this forum as a journal, in a few months time you will understand how invaluable it is. Document the little things, the mini milestones you will reach each day, as well as the struggles you may feel. Writing it down helps you sort it out and you will meet others either new to recovery or thtose of who have been there and know from where you speak.
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    Hi Gee-

    Welcome to the forum & congrats on Day 6, now. I, like Blondie, can relate with your dirty little secret. I’m so thankful you found this place b/c it can be life changing. I’m like you, the physical aspect of it is no walk in the park but was tolerable. The challenge, for the most part, has been all mental. It truly is a mind of matter battle.

    I don’t have all the answers for you but what I do have are the same fears you have about living my best life without a little help from those little demons. I almost sold my soul to escape reality. I give All Thanks & Praises I saved Myself from destroying Me & I.....the same for You.

    I can only share my experience with you & what you wrote is exactly how it looked for me. The one thing that stood out most is when you talked about going out on your back stairs & taking that deep breath in of that chilly autumn is around the corner air. Thanks for that- I can feel it now. No better feeling then capturing a moment like that. It always gives Me the feeling that everything is gonna be alright, am I right? It’s those little things you have to hold onto so you can close your eyes on those bad days & relive. Judging by your description I would say you got your senses back, Am I right? I can remember vividly the morning I opened my eyes & everything looked so clear, & I could smell the coffee brewing and then when I stood up I didn’t feel like I was wearing a lead suit. Has this happened for you yet?

    Once it does my suggestion would be to take it all in....everything! This is you coming back to like. Along with it you will experience a range of emotions good & bad so you’ll need close your eyes, take in those deep breathes & recall those everything is gonna be alright feelings. You will experience all this in bursts so remember Mind over Matter.

    You CAN do this because You ARE doing this....as we speak!! Just like you said change that thinking. We all have emotional baggage & I assure You that you will have all the Time in the World to sort it all out. I know in the physical World Time is measured by the Clock, but Here, on the inside (or mentally) there is no Clock. This is you’re journey & it is not a sprint it is a marthon. Allow yourself to time to heal.

    The first week feels like you have the flu so treat yourself accordingly. Use Imodium for the bathroom issues. Fluids are a must so lots of water. Make sure to get protein & vitamins in ya & create healthy habits with exercise. If you feel good physically you’ll feel better mentally. Day by day you will grow stronger & stronger mentally so set small goals mentally. Time does Heal just about everything but remember there is no clock. You are on your Time & it’s just moment by moment from here on out. You will find that you are doing those things you feared you couldn’t & that, My Friend, is the Most Amazing part of this whole journey.

    Sorry to be so long winded but you struck a cord with Me. I didn’t think I could be the SuperHero without my magic pill, but Here I am doing it! Being My Own Superhero! The only catch is that you have to train daily for it so you have to really really want. Each day you do not use is a step forward & you have to crawl before you walk, right?

    Get It Up Ye,

    ❤️
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    Thanks both of you for replying...I really love reading the wisdom in posts such as yours. This forum is so insightful; not just a load of generic advice on how to quit, numbers to call etc etc.

    Connecting with real people, having had these real life experiences, is emboldening and helps those like myself who have awoken to accepting and calling out an addiction issue. I am an addict. I know that. I am learning to make peace with it. I know that my mind will battle itself in the future. There will be moments of weakness when I tell myself that one day on the poison won't do any harm. I know these tests are coming, and I need to be ready.

    I'm on day 8 now, and almost everything has cleared up; still stomach issues and slight RSL, but other than that, I'm ok!
    One week ago, I was starting to get that uneasiness that initiates w/d for me...don't know about anyone else - it's a general fear of what's coming. Anxiety I guess. Anyway, as I said in my first post, I didn't choose last Saturday, the 25th of August 2018 as my last pill pop day. It just happened. And it is the best thing I have ever done for myself.

    Today I took my son and baby daughter out. I am ashamed, but she is over 3 months old, and this was the first time I'd taken her out in her pram. I was too tired, sluggish and spaced out to do this previously. As I walked in the mild September air, helping my son on a nature hunt, I heard every sound. Saw every colour. Felt the air on my face. All this was real. It was almost overwhelming. I could feel tears building as I realised how detached I'd been on those pills for all this time. Why did I fool myself into thinking I was living? I was a shell - doped out, switching between manic energy and nodding off asleep. Thinking always of where to get my next pack of pills.

    See, normally Sunday would be a bad day...not as many pharmacies open, and I had the feeling a couple of places were getting wise to me. Sunday was the worst time. The time I'd spend driving between places to get my dirty little fix. Collectively, I must have spent many hours driving round places. The stress of wondering 'will I be denied? Do they remember me from 2 weeks ago?' was always forefront in my mind as I drove.

    Not today. Today I breathed it all in. A wobbly newborn. Sensory wise, things are almost overwhelming. But I thank God that they are, because it means I'm living it.

    I thank you all for the courage you've shown in helping/ responding/ just reading my ramblings.

    Gee.
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    Sensory wise, things will be almost overwhelming. One of the double edged swords of early withdrawal, but it looks as though you are embracing the wonderfulness of that overload. Keep at it, one day at a time, staying in the moment. You are doing a great job.

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    I had an awakening walk. When I was in pain and trying not to think of a pill. I walked three miles in a complete haze and saw someone struggling on a bike. It was a turning point for me when I reflect. I know you can overcome this. The aches and pains that we all feel can't be helped.. actually can be with over the counter ibuprofen or Tylenol. We don't need the codeine or opiate. It's a fake sense of security. Trust me. You don't need it. Withdrawal is hard but it's not life threatening for an opioid only user. I have faith your walk will reveal more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geemus123 View Post
    Thanks both of you for replying...I really love reading the wisdom in posts such as yours. This forum is so insightful; not just a load of generic advice on how to quit, numbers to call etc etc.

    Connecting with real people, having had these real life experiences, is emboldening and helps those like myself who have awoken to accepting and calling out an addiction issue. I am an addict. I know that. I am learning to make peace with it. I know that my mind will battle itself in the future. There will be moments of weakness when I tell myself that one day on the poison won't do any harm. I know these tests are coming, and I need to be ready.

    I'm on day 8 now, and almost everything has cleared up; still stomach issues and slight RSL, but other than that, I'm ok!
    One week ago, I was starting to get that uneasiness that initiates w/d for me...don't know about anyone else - it's a general fear of what's coming. Anxiety I guess. Anyway, as I said in my first post, I didn't choose last Saturday, the 25th of August 2018 as my last pill pop day. It just happened. And it is the best thing I have ever done for myself.

    Today I took my son and baby daughter out. I am ashamed, but she is over 3 months old, and this was the first time I'd taken her out in her pram. I was too tired, sluggish and spaced out to do this previously. As I walked in the mild September air, helping my son on a nature hunt, I heard every sound. Saw every colour. Felt the air on my face. All this was real. It was almost overwhelming. I could feel tears building as I realised how detached I'd been on those pills for all this time. Why did I fool myself into thinking I was living? I was a shell - doped out, switching between manic energy and nodding off asleep. Thinking always of where to get my next pack of pills.

    See, normally Sunday would be a bad day...not as many pharmacies open, and I had the feeling a couple of places were getting wise to me. Sunday was the worst time. The time I'd spend driving between places to get my dirty little fix. Collectively, I must have spent many hours driving round places. The stress of wondering 'will I be denied? Do they remember me from 2 weeks ago?' was always forefront in my mind as I drove.

    Not today. Today I breathed it all in. A wobbly newborn. Sensory wise, things are almost overwhelming. But I thank God that they are, because it means I'm living it.

    I thank you all for the courage you've shown in helping/ responding/ just reading my ramblings.

    Gee.

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    So, how many read my story and thought: 'relapse'?
    That's exactly what happened, and the frustrating part is that I knew it was coming.
    I was in hospital at the start of the month, again for a simple procedure. Afterwards, came the codeine. I could've said no. I could've asked for an alternative. But I didn't. Maybe part of me didn't want to. After my release, I was given some co-codomol (weak stuff, as I saw on my patient record that I am currently in codeine reduction, so the hospital obviously knew about my issues. Last year I was given a week's worth of 30mg dihyrdocodeine. This time, 2 days of 8mg. The hospital were trying to help me I guess. But it was too late. The addict was out. I left the hospital and stockpiled N+. And so it repeated itself. The daily dose to make life liveable. But it's not a life, as I've said before. It's a poor imitation of living, seeing everything through a fog.
    Anyway, I'm not going to take up anyone's time with a pity party story. I've no-one to blame but myself. I have dug myself out of this before, and I'll do it again. I'm on day 4 of cold turkey, having taken a massive dose last Thursday. Got the usual sweats, stomach pains, but I'm feeling much more anxious than normal. I don't know why that is. Maybe part of me is resigned to another relapse. I cannot let it be inevitable. I have to fight this thing. I'll keep you guys updated.
    Thanks,

    Gee

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    Hi G-

    Congrats on Day 4. You might have slipped, we all have, it’s part of the process. So instead of throwing a pity party let us throw you a celebration party! Let’s celebrate the fact that you caught yourself from spiraling out control back into the throws of active addiction. YOU did that so hold your head up with Pride b/c that takes Courage & Strength, not to mention Accountability & Will Power. All the traits a Warrior would need to slay the opioid dragon.

    I know you said you’ve dug yourself out of this before, but,...I just wanted to put this out there- I have a shovel amongst a plethora of other crafty tools & I’m a pretty good cheerleader so I’m here for You.

    Remind yourself of those feelings on the back steps & that walk in the fresh autumn air. Those feels are just the tip of the iceberg. You owe it to yourself to have many more of those soul awakening moments.

    You know the drill so dig in deep & as you would say (in my best Gee voice) “Get it up Ye!


    Seek & You Shall Find,

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    (This is just me getting my thoughts out...no need to reply, I just have to write this down and come back to look at this every time I'm feeling weak.)

    Back again!

    Wow, the carnival of sobriety and relapse really is a b***h isn't it!

    After my last shot at getting clean, I lasted about 5/6 days, I think. The thing with the codeine journey is that it very quickly scrambles your concept of timelines and dates. Also, I'm frankly not thinking too much about my last time at getting sober, because I knew that I didn't want it then.

    I do now.

    I'm into day 5 of my third serious attempt at this, and it's been horrendous. Fortunately I'm on October break just now, so have a week to get my head straight. Unfortunately, I've had to try and fit cold turkey around being a daddy to a 4 year old and a 5 month old...that has not been easy!

    I've had hot and cold flashes much, much worse than usual. In fact the last 72 hours I've been constantly cold to the point of boiling everyone in the house by having the heating cranked way up. I'd say day 5 (Thursday) is slightly better but I'm still feeling flu-like. Mentally, I've been ok. I've got beta blockers for anxiety and I'm a couple of months into a course of anti-depressants so I guess they must be helping too. Headaches have been bad for 48 hours now, and of course I've had to visit the toilet many, many, many times! Hopefully the Immodium will start to work, because I'm losing weight on top of being a bit thin anyways (I'm 6'2" (and a half!)| and weighing 11st 11lbs - which is 165lbs) and I want to put on a bit more weight before winter hits and it really gets cold!

    This next bit is a bit rambling, but my thoughts are in free flow...

    Right, here goes -
    I need to do this for my family.
    I want to look them in the eye and know that I am not lying.
    I want to be me - healthy, energised, engaged.
    I don't want to sneak around.
    I don't want to spend a fortune on these horrible little pills
    I will become ill.
    I will be caught.
    I am down
    And I am sad.
    But I am not beaten.

    REMEMBER THIS....The next time you want just one pill, one strip, one packet...where it leads. You cannot just have one. You are an addict and if you open yourself up to this, the addiction will always win.

    Then the day comes where you want to quit again. The fear of the first day. The breathless panic when you think about what's to come. You know you will wake up soaked in foul sweat. You will have diarrhoea, nausea, no appetite, pounding head, restless legs and arms, no energy, panic, feelings of hopelessness, lethargy, aches and pains.

    And for what? So you can transport yourself to some fake reality? Where you think it's all warm and cosy? It isn't though. Whatever has driven you to the embrace of opioids is still waiting on the other side of that temporary gate. Then you will have that to deal with, on top of the withdrawals. No escapism, however idyllic it seems, is worth that.
    Remember this, you...the one who is writing this right now, Thursday, the 18th of October (a special day, 5 months since you first held a wee miracle) the next time you feel like giving in. Just don't. I can choose never to use again. I choose not to use today. And I am strong.

    You are more than this addiction. Beat it. Smash it to pieces. Use its destruction as testimony to how strong and incredible you really are.

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    Gee-

    Takes a metaphorical deep breath in...

    Yes,Yes, & Yes to everything you just wrote!! NO MORE lying, cheating, & stealing precious time away amongst other things! Today, you have a Choice! Give All Thanks & Praises to the Most High!

    When that proverbial switch gets flipped you will do whatever it takes to slay the dragon of addiction. Addiction goes way beyond the use of substances, it is a thought process. The goal is to create a life where using is no longer an option. It doesn’t matter how long it takes you to get there just as long as you keep taking that next step forward.

    Congrats on Day 5! I’m so Proud of You!!

    Luv & Light,

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    Thanks Che,

    you're one of the many people who have helped, guided, supported and comforted us newbies through the dark start of this journey. I'm 9 days clean. Finished my first day of work. Absolutely shattered, but managed to pretend I was effervescent for the kids that I teach. I'm convinced i've had gastric flu/gastroenteritis this past week on top of withdrawals, but maybe not. I've never felt so ill before from coming off these pills.

    Headache has cleared up, as have the aches and pains. Still got severe nighttime sweats and chills, which have hung around a lot longer than usual. This must be my body telling me that this is the last time I can put myself through this.

    I've not been tempted to buy any pills. In fact, i'm leaving my bank card at home. Making sure i've enough fuel to get to and from work, i'm not allowing myself any opportunity to buy anything - petrol or pills! These are the small changes i'm going to have to learn to make if i'm to make a lifetime success of this. Already, there is a small, small whisper, that tells me I can reward myself at the weekend with a little chemical forget-a-while. I'm writing this as a recognition of the dark voice trying to tempt me. But i'm ready for it this time. It will not beat me.

    The rest of this week will no doubt be a struggle. I have read a lot about the exhaustion that can come after a couple of weeks off this poison. I've never been off the pills long enough to experience this, but I will this time, so unfortunately i'm anticipating feeling even more done in. My appetite is shot to bits, and i've dropped another few lbs, which won't help boost my mood and productivity. But this is part of the re-birth and my journey. This honestly will be one of the hardest battles i've faced, and I know that I will feel a sense of achievement like nothing i've felt before once I make it to the other side.

    Please, don't feel obliged to reply to this. I'm rambling and raving, prepping for the mental war. I'm my own best friend and worst enemy, and I know i'll face both aspects - I just have to embrace the right one.

    Gee.

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    Once I get to 10pm tonight, UK time, I’ll be 14 days clean. The longest I’ve been clean since taking my first pills 3 years ago. I’m not feeling great in myself. It’s tempting today. I feel stressed, tired, irritable, low mood...all this would change with a few or 10.
    But I’m putting that thought out my head. I’m gonna ride out the day. I’ll probably be a bit of a shell today. Definitely more fragile than I have been. But I will get thru today. And I WILL NOT USE.

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    Hi gee
    I'm old forum member who has returned. I got clean then relapsed a few times. I'm attempting yet again to get off my DOC. It's nice to meet you. This forum has helped me tremendously and would feel lost without it.
    First off, congrats on 14 days! Let's make it one more day, eh? You can do it. This is the longest you've had and you do not want to go backwards. It is not worth it. Not one bit. You mentioned the whisper may come on the weekend. Sounds like a slight tiny whisper that you anticipated so it's mental. That whisper is mental and you are stronger than that whisper. You can do this! Give us an update when you can. Wish you the best.

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    Hi Geez,

    nice to meet you too! Thanks for the support you've shown, and I totally agree with you on how important this forum has been. One of the worst aspects of addiction is the fact that those closest to you in life can never really understand the process, unless they have also been through the hell. I've a few people who know about my addiction, and I get occasional messages from them, but nothing like the understanding shown on the forum. Everyone leads such busy lives, and I have no doubt that those who are close to me also have their battles and demons. It is warming to know that there is always a comfort in the dark times, as shown by the forum.
    Anyways, I made it past the 14 day point. I was in a low mood yesterday, and I think the insomnia - which I'd been warned about - has hit me hard over the weekend. I'm falling asleep about 9pm, and waking up around 1/2 am UK time. I have had some crazy vivid dreams too. Interestingly, the reason I self-medicate has appeared in a couple of my dreams, making me think that my mind knows it needs to face up to certain things now. It's been 16 years of numbing memories and truths away, through alcohol, and drugs, and I think I need to confront certain traumas.
    Physically, I'm completely symptom-free (apart from sneezing..weird, my body forces the least unpleasant withdrawal symptom on me at the end. It feels like a reward!) Now, I'm faced with the staying-clean part, which I've not experienced yet. Re-learning how to function while not on pills is going to take some getting used to.

    My experience yesterday: I took my son to the park for a walk around the water, exploring nature and embracing the chilly air. He was so excited and full of smiles and energy. Now, while I felt more feelings than I have in a long, long time, and I loved spending time yesterday with him, part of me was saying "yeah, this is all good, but imagine how good you'd feel if you popped some pills?"
    Now, I know it wouldn't be better. Truth is, it'd be far worse. I was playing out the scenario in my head of what yesterday would've been like had I decided to self-medicate. I would feel nothing but shame and guilt, so I took the right path, and I actively chose not to use. I could have. I had plenty of opportunities to buy some meds and change it all. But I didn't. Sorry, I'm rambling a bit. What I'm trying to say is that, all the while I was enjoying being with my son, I was having those thoughts about using. It was like two parts of me in direct conflict: there was me, living and loving the moment, and the 'other' me, trying to tempt my sober self into a chemist to buy some pills. Well, I beat the 'other' me, and I did not use. But I think this has been my first encounter with the addict voice, and that internal mental battle many of us face.

    Didn't mean to write an essay there, but as I was typing, more of what happened to me yesterday started making sense.

    Geez, again I thank you for taking the time to read about me and reply. I wish you all the very best on getting off the drug - we who have been there stand beside you, and if you need to chat, I am here.

    Gee.

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    Wow!! Fantastic! U made it. I'm super siked for you. Awesome job! Yes, I think it'll take time for those thoughts of pills to leave. So I believe u are in great shape. Great news tho so happy for ya. N no worries about rambling, that's wat helps us. That's what it's all about. It's not rambling it's talking about what is going on n how ur feeling. The longer the post, the better, more relieving in my eyes! Almost 6am here n must try to sleep. Chat tomorrow. Sleep well. Be well n carry on!!!!

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    Day 19 now...still motoring on. Strangely, i've had next to no cravings this week. I've been keeping myself very busy with work, so I guess that'll be helping. What i've noticed is that the reasons I took the pills were greatly exaggerated in my mind I took them to gain that invincibility and drive that I used to think I had while on the pills. Now I realise I am, genuinely, better without them. I have read many accounts of people going sober and getting confidence and energy back..and honestly, I was always a bit cynical. The truth is, i'm feeling that way more and more each day. I am far from fixed, and I still feel a bit flat and low, but I am having frequent bursts of confidence and productivity that I naively thought I had while I was doped up. I think knowing i'm strong enough to have gotten sober has boosted my own confidence and self-esteem a bit, and i've got more fight in me to take things on. Today, I had a challenging morning at work: I'd have prepared for this in the past by chucking 20-30 pills down my neck, then maniacally jumping around the workplace, thinking I was great and in control. The sobering truth is, in fact, I would be losing all track of reality. Then about lunchtime, the dizzy euphoria would wear off, and i'd be left sick, exhausted, irritable, itching for more codeine. I'd leave work early and get more pills on the way home. Numb myself. Crash out asleep. Repeat cycle. Repeat cycle...
    I thank myself for being strong and breaking free.

    Here's to day 21 when it comes.
    Wishing you all the luck in the good fight.

    Gee

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    21 days chalked up...if anyone is reading and looking to chat/for any help out there, just let me know. I'm very, very new to this long road, but still feeling the rawness of withdrawal. If you are about to take the jump, I'll see if I can help in any way. Addiction is the loneliest place, but there are people there for you.

    Gee.

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    It is hard. So hard. I'm on day 2 n can't wait to be where u are. U are doing so well!!! Anytime you'd like to chat u let me know!!!! Proud of ya! Addiction is lonely isn't it?

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    Hi gee
    Hope ur doing ok. I'm on day 7. Just saying hi bc uve been doing well staying clean n managing ur best as a dad, husband and teacher. But I also say hi bc of one of posts struck me so hard on the loneliness. It is. I read once that when your kicking it's not like the movies where ur ready to kill someone or climbing the walls and screaming....but instead it's a quite inner scream but u just lie there and suffer quietly alone. It's the first time I've ever heard someone else describe what it's like....for me anyway. Everyone is different. And after this last kick, I've certainly learned that each time is different. My last 2 attempts where terrible. No words really just unbearable. This time on day 7 I do feel a tad better finally. Certainly not myself but I am trying with all my will do wateva it takes to get well. Mentally, def physically n of course spiritually as well. Idk wat I'd do without my belief in god and the universe. I think besides of how much I love my family that's what gotme thru the last week. Ok rambling, anyway just saying hi n hope u are well. I'm going to try to do some laundry n I'm gonna update my post very soon. Be well stay strong

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    Geez!

    Great to hear from you! I'm good thanks. Made it into day 28. It's 2am uk time, and I'm wide awake for unknown reasons. I feel that the insomnia isn't caused by w/d. My mind is whirring overtime right now, for various reasons. I had a really vivid 'pill' dream...in it I'd convinced myself that a pack of 24 tablets was fine, and I'd be able to control it. Woke up with no cravings thankfully, but I can see how these dreams and visions could easily convince.
    Love the description of kicking it - portrayed in the movies >> how it is in reality. Not sure if you've seen the film Trainspotting? It's a bit of a cult film over here in Scotland, and one of the key moments is the main character withdrawing from H_ _ _ _ _. Cue full blown screaming/hallucinations/mind-altering pain...and mine wasn't like that. Like you say, I lay suffering silently, not able to tell anyone the truth. Passing it off as flu. It was a hellish journey, but one that many of us have to bear alone. This is what makes us incredibly strong: even if we fall, even if we know what's coming during w/d, we stare our addiction down and try, try, try again. And eventually, our strength will overcome. I'm convinced of that.
    I'm so pleased that you've made it to day 7! That is an important one...it's there, within reach! Starting to shed that awful skin of addiction, seeing colours and hearing sounds again! I still can't get over how glorious freshly-brewed coffee smells...I'd dulled my senses into some kind of coma I think. Mmmmmm, coffee....Homer Simpson moment. I'd say also that take any experiences from your last attempts at w/d that you think may help you, but don't dwell on the fact that you didn't quite get there - focus on the fact that you are not giving up. You are feeling better this time that you did the last two times. You said yourself you're not fully healed but you're feeling a bit better. You have this...this is where the mental strength will start to build. You're a week into it. Your body and mind may be battered, but they are not broken, and they are going to work to get you better.
    Keep in touch, and I'm wishing you every ounce of good wishes and thoughts.

    Gee.

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    Hey everyone,

    Just checking in on day 36 of being clean...in the chemist yesterday buying some supplies, and stared straight at the shiny red and silver nemesis..boxes of Nurofen +. I felt no urge to buy them at all. I'm glad, because I felt a slight flutter as I walked in to the shop. There were a few potential trigger points yesterday...silly little things that in the past I would associate with being in my altered state. Busy places, stressful moments...incidents that I would've told myself a month ago that I needed to be doped up to deal with. I now know that's not true. Doesn't stop me being a bit agitated mind you. I guess I'll just learn to cope better over time.

    Please, if anyone reads this, and they were where I was not too long ago, get in touch. I'll be happy to help in any way I can.

    Gee.

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    Day 60! Still going strong. My mindset has - for now - changed and I can't see myself going back to that place. I'm always a bit worried/wary of relapse, because i've read so many accounts from people who go back to using. It's inevitable that something major in life will come along at some point to test my resolve, and i'm honestly kinda scared about that moment. I guess the best way to live is to live for each day,each moment. Recognise that life will throw up challenges, but don't become hung up on obsessing when that might be. When it does happen, and i'm sorely tempted to go back to using, I need, NEED to remember that it isn't a solution, it's opening a door that only leads to that old life of deceit, depression and failure.

    If anyone needs to talk, i'm here.

    Gee.

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    Gee!
    I'm so happy for you! Truly I am. I would like to chat but cannot at the moment. Later, I'll have some time n hopefully I'll be able to get on here and get some thoughts out? So happy ur well stay strong my friend!!

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    Geemus....Hi... I'm just now reading over your thread. Congrats on day 60! That's amazing....sounds like you are doing so well. Sorry I haven't been to your thread much sooner to offer support, but I've been in a pretty sticky and horrible situation myself, and I just get quiet and (let's just call it what it is) downright selfish when I'm low. Seems that then I just don't have it in me to help myself, much less others. Long story short: I tapered off hydros a couple of years ago, only to find that my chronic pain would not let up for long. Opiates were then out of the question, because my doctor will no longer prescribe them long term. I was in enough pain to be suicidal. No help was in site (except, of course, the support from the wonderful peeps on this forum!!) I tried some crazy stuff out of desperation. I learned how to dry, tincture, and extract wild lettuce. (it's a miracle I didn't ACCIDENTALLY kill myself on that stuff,and it turned out to not work!) Then I heard about phenibut, and reluctantly started on it, and it worked great...for about 10 months. Then it turned into absolute hell! Anyhoo, I'm STILL tapering off the stuff, it's so strong....and my doctor finally sent me to pain management, and now, I'm on that slippery slope with (guess what) Codeine. I'm trying my best to limit my use of it. I know how easy it would be for me to become addicted. I'm doing really good right now, tho. I stirred up some rls last week, which lasted 4 days or so, which warned me how close to danger I was. So, I'm being even more careful now. But, I know it could still happen.....I know I have to be REALLY strict with myself. OK, forgive me for running off at the mouth,or at the fingers, in our case! I tell you all that just to tell you I know where you're coming from....it ain't easy, friend, but you can do this! You are doing so well.....keep on being clean for your kids, they are depending on you!

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