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Hair Follicle Drug Test Results Interpretation
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    Default Hair Follicle Drug Test Results Interpretation

    Hello. I am fighting for custody of my daughter. I know my ex gf has been using drugs around her. She was recently ordered to get hair follicle/urine testing done. I know her and am sure she tried everything to beat it, but both test were positive. Urine showed dilute. I am sure she drank alot of something in a failed effort to skew the results. I am also sure she tried abstaining, but probably wasn't too successful.

    Could someone look at these test results and give me a better insight on how to interpret them. I know they are positive and thats probably enough, but are these levels extremely high?(especially the methamphetamine). Also, i know she goes to a methadone clinic, this could not contribute to any results, right?
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    Ugh. It doesn't look good! The second page kind of made it a tad more clearer. It appears she uses quite a few drugs to keep her going. Extremely high? Well, the opiate one doesn't break it down. But it's pretty high in my humble opinion. As a former opiate patient, I never did anything near that amount. Not to say I wouldn't have.. But I have a kid. To see over 200mg in the opiate category and the methamphetamine, I am pretty certain custody will be a given if you are clean.
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    I would also like to add as a Mom and a woman that has been dependent or even addicted, I pray you will do your best to get her help! Your kids need both parents. God bless.

    Ps. Methadone would not show up as an opiate. You are right.
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    As I relook, it shows positive so very high for morphine. The "H" positive is a no brainer in my opinion. She isn't just going to a methadone clinic. She is using some very addictive and illegal drugs.

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    Yes I am clean. Never abused drugs in my life. Not even weed. I used to drink pretty hard, but gave that up 5 years ago. She also has a pending felony drug charge. I thought that Methamphetamine number of hers looked extremely high at 155920 pg/mg?

    I thought maybe another drug matabolized to morphine, not sure
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    Well yes, codeine, hydrocodone, fentanyl can very well metabolize to morphine. But dang... It was off the charts. I'm assuming she isn't prescribed any medication in this family? Therefore illegal. H was positive. That is very specific.

    If she is going to a methadone clinic and has that high positive for Meth... You bet your >>>> that she is using.

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    Thanks, that is good info. I always suspected. I never understood her. I always told her if she was going to do something stupid call me, I will get her. My daughter is only 8, but it wasn't hard to figure out she had been in a drug trailer with people using. I about flipped. she is with me most of the time anyway, but then I have to worry to death when she gets her. I cannot understand why she chose to do drugs around her. There was simply no need. I knew I had to be brave and take action for my daughters safety. Also, test lab reported she has no prescription drugs she is taking(she was asked pretest)
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    As a Hair Drug Testing Specialist I can tell you that level of Meth is pretty outrageous. A level over 7500 pg/mg means high constant use. The damage that person is doing to themselves is huge. The results are for 1.5 inch segment which is a 90 day history from the date collected (top right corner of the results). This person needs some serious detox and counseling. Hope this helps.
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    Thank you so much for your reply. My attorney told me today he never seen anyone with levels that high. I received temporary custody relief today. She told the judge some bull about robitussin, but he knew better. It was hard to feel sorry for her when she involves my daughter that I love in her messed up life. It's beyond me why someone wouldn't just realize they are a mess and stay away from their children. Not only did I have to worry about her, I had to worry about the scummy druggie men she was around. Bad people

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    You might even consider having the child test. Unfortunately I have tested too many kids who tested positive. A couple of years ago I did a 12 month segmented test on a 2 year old who was positive for cocaine and marijuana every month. They were low levels but each month was positive for one or the other. Also I see a lot of miss-information about hair drug testing as I answer questions on 2 other forums. People are answering question who have no business answering questions about drug testing.

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    Default I'm in the same boat as the original poster. Can someone help interpret the results

    I'm in the same boat as the original poster. Trying to get sole custody of my kids. The kids egg donor was ordered to have hair follicle/urine testing done. The Methamphetamine level was 6726 ng/ml. Is this a high level? Apparently the testing facility called her to tell her the results, she argued with them about the results and they decided to do a d&l isomer test. Does anyone know how much that additional test costs? They were supposed to do enough hair to go back 6 months.
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    Considering the detection time (in urine) for meth is approximately 1-2 days I would consider it a high number. I don't know how much a D & L Isomer test cost is but it would help distinguish between a legal and an illegal substance. A hair drug test is meant to show consistent use over time. In order to do a 6 month hair drug test the donor needs to have 3 inch long hair on the head. A 6 month hair drug test would cost approximately $214 and cover the 5 main drugs of abuse which would include meth. A small cost considering the consequences. Be sure to insist on taking the sample of hair from the head and not the body as body hair has no time frame associated with it. Hope this helps.
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    Thank you sir! The testing facility called me back yesterday to tell me that they can't do the D & L isomer test without taking another hair sample. the total additional cost would be $245. I told them I'm not paying for that, I'm not authorizing it. that the court order was fulfilled with the report that they faxed my attorney and that's what we will be using for the court stuff...I mentioned to the gal that the person tested (my kids mother) is also on probation for selling meth and is possibly a habitual user. So she told the testing facility that she had been taking over the counter allergy meds that is causing that high level of methamphetamines...Is that even possible?
    She also tested high levels for hydrocodone, oxycodone and amphetamines...

    The court order stated 6 month hair follicle test yet the facility only did 90 days worth of sample (1.5 inch right). They also did a urine test that came back clean...
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    It's highly unlikely OTC meds would cause a positive for meth in a hair drug test but that is why they do a D & L Isomer test - to eliminate the possibility of a Vick's Inhaler (maybe). If the court ordered a 6 month test that is what should have been done. As a third party administrator for hair drug testing I often have requests for 6 month tests so that is the test that is done, if the donor's hair is 3 inches long. If she has tested for high levels of other drugs in the past it sounds like a done deal if your attorney has half a clue.
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    I cant believe that you would be so immature about something so serious. You shouldnt be a parent if you cant even have the decency to think about your children and put your own personal opinions aside for a second. It is never ok to put something like this on the net for the whole world to read! For your childs best interest wouldnt it be better to try sorting things between you guys so your child doesn't have to suffer the effects of having no privacy either. Do you want your child suffereing from the teasing and everything that goes with it when parents embarrass another. That child has to also live with the actions of their parents. If you need help go and get a so called expert to tell you what this means rather than embarrassing this poor women who is probably going through hell and doing her very best! You are probably destroying the poor women as well as your child. Maybe you should get some help you clearly have issues too. Child custody is bot a competition. Grow up!

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    Mydogfifi: I'm all over the Internet trying to get a straight answer. If I've done a hair follicle and 80 days ago I took a half an extacy pill. Is that something that's going to show above the cutoff line in your professional opinion? I don't know if it's that it will show up and I will test positive or if it's looking for consistent use for me to test positive. Thank you so much

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    Thank you for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated.
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    Default Mydogfifi can u answer a quick question

    My boyfriend just did a hair follicule test yesterday and came home crying. He said he had slipped up and smoked a bowl of meth 3 times in the last 90 days, 2 were within the last 30days. He is a wreck. Someone said that it's not considered chronic or consistent use... that he might be ok. Do u think this is true or should he prepare for his program to be extended a little bit? Is he going to fail?
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    He did have longer than 1.5" hair

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    A hair drug test is meant to show consistent use over time. A 1.5 inch sample, cut at the scalp line, will go back 90 days. Usually who ever is asking for the test won't go back past 90 days because it will cost more. My best professional guess is that he has a 50/50 chance of passing. The 2 bowls in the last 30 days might be trouble. It depends on how strong the meth was and what amount is considered "a bowl". In the future he might consider doing his own Anonymous Hair 5 Drug Panel test to see where he stands.

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    Default Question on ng/ml

    I have recently taken 450 mg of codeine syrup but only once. I read that the cut off point for codeine in hair follicle is 2000 ng/ml and would not be reported to the employer if under this amount. Would I still be under the cut off point with 1 dose of 450mg? If not, would I still have to wait 90 days before it's out of my system or does the ng/ml slowly decrease over time?
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    First off 2000 ng/mL is the cutoff level for reporting a urine drug test. Most hair test are reported in pg/mg (picograms per milligrams). A hair drug test is meant to show consistent use over time. A 1.5 inch sample, cut at the scalp line, will go back 90 days. Either way that amount of codeine won't show up in a hair drug test and in regards to a urine testing the drug is already out of the system so a urine test won't pick it up.
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    Default Quick question

    Will one time drug use. Example 2-7.5 mg hydrocodone show up as a positive in hair testing? Thanks
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    That small amount of hydrocodone won't show up on a hair drug test.
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    Mydogfifi: thank you for being the helpful expert in this forum and answering so may questions for everyone. I am in a fight too for my daughter. The nail test results that came back today showed level of Hydrocodone was greater than 2000 pg/mg with the cutoff at 100 pg/mg. I know there is proof of a script for hydro. But how can I tell if greater than 2000 proves abuse of the drug at hig levels? That amount was for the 100 pound grandmother. The grandfather showed 431 morphine with the cutting at 100 pg/mg. And his hydro was at 1198 pg/mg. He had cancelled THC results because he did not have enough sample to gain the levels. My attorney is suggesting another nail test got the THC, but I think there’s enough to prove abuse of the Opiates. I just really need help explain that since I don’t know how to tell if the tests show they are using over their prescription calls for. Grandma admitted she is prescribed 10mg every 4-6 hours as needed. They both admitted coming to court under the influence. He drove them there. The judge asked. These people are addicts and trying to gain access to this sweet girl. I just want to protect her.

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    duplicate please disregard
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    Please see my question posted today.
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    It might be hard to prove abuse even though the level is high. Only a Medical Review Officer (MRO) could make that decision and even he/she might have trouble making a definitive judgment. An MRO is a doctor trained to read drug test results and say what might be happening. You can find an MRO in your area at their association web site aamro.com. I am not affiliated with the web site in any way. Given the Grandmas usage the level of 2000+ sounds about right but I am not a medical professional. If the Grandfather does not have a prescription for morphine that that is a of great concern. I don't deal with nail test so I would recommend a Hair 5 Drug Panel with Extended Opiates test to get a better idea of a history of use. A 1.5 sample of head hair will go back 90 days.
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    Mydogfifi..
    Have you heard of situations of people doing hair follicles and cutting off more than there supposed to and going back further than there suppose to . ? Through DHS

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