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    Hello everyone,

    I have been addicted to Oxycontin for a little under a year now. Currently I am taking around 100mg a day. I have tried to quit in the past but have not been very successful. I have taken methadone a few times and it has taken away all withdrawl symptoms. I have recently acquired a decent amount of 5mg methadone pills. I would like to set myself on a dosage 'schedule' as to ween myself off of Oxycontin. I know the correct thing to do would be to go to a doctor but a) I do not want to get my parents involved and b) I would like to quit on my own. I feel that about 20-30mg of methadone a day is my optimum dosage.

    Can anyone give me advice on to what type of 'schedule' I should put myself on over the next few months (or a single month), so as to when I am done I am taking a very small dosage of methadone of which then I could get off completly? I also plan on attending counseling during this time as well. I have not been addicted to Oxycontin for a very long time so I do not feel as if I should be on a methadone schedule for an extended period of time (i.e 6 months to a year). I would like to be able to take methadone for close to 1-2 months and then quit.

    Any advice on this subject would be greatly appreciated. . Again, I do not want to see a doctor because I don't want to get my parents involved, nor do I want to pay for the methadone clinic or have my license taken away. In the past, I have taken methadone over short periods of time and it has worked wonders.

    My 'planned' schedule was going to be something along the lines of:

    25mg/day for week 1
    20mg/day for week 2
    15mg/day for week 3
    10mg/day for week 4
    5mg/day for week 5

    And then stop taking methadone all together. Would this schedule not be very effective? Or would it work for someone who has been on a strong opiate as long as I have? (around 10 months) I am a 21 year old college student with no serious pain, but with a drug addiction.

    Thank you for your advice!
    dbuster

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    Try the scheduale that you have there and just make adjustments as you go.Try not to stay on the methadone to long as the withdrawls from it are no fun.Hang in there and you'll do fine...Let us know how your doing......Dave

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    Does anyone know where I can get information on counseling services for Oxycontin addiction in my area?

    Thank you
    dbuster

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    Hi --

    Here is a website that I used when I needed help. Not sure where you live, but just put your info in.

    http://www.getmentalhelp.com/


    Hope it helps.

    Theresa
    Last edited by Anonymous; 03-31-2016 at 08:20 PM.

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    dbuster, there is a serious flaw in your plan. Physiologically, oxycodone (the active ingredient in Oxycontin, Percodan, Tylox, etc.) is far easier to cease using than methadone. While the reason for this is rather complicated, I'll try to give you a quick explanation. There are a number of opioid receptor pathways in the human cerebral cortex that play an important role in the development of drug dependence and the intensity of symptoms of physical withdrawal experienced by opiate addicted patients. Specific opiates will result in, what are generally known to be, specific degrees of intensity upon abrupt cessation of that opiate. Simply put, oxycodone causes far less discomfort upon complete cessation than does methadone. This is because methadone binds to those receptors (referred to above) in your brain like an armadillo holding onto a hole as a Texan attempts to pull him out. Oxycodone is more like a, lemme see, uh, ok...more like an opossum holding onto a dead limb in the lower branches of a Hackberry tree. Methadone not only holds onto (binds would be the correct medical term) the receptor tighter, but it hold on longer too. A helluva lot longer. WAAAAAYYYYY longer.

    Your best bet would be to switch to codeine for your taper, if possible. If not, you'll have to use the oxycodone. First of all, you need to give the rest of your tablets to your Moms to dole out to you. I can guarantee you one thing; you try to do this on your own, you have about a .0005% chance of success. However, if you are bound and determined to take this course of action, you'll have to find someone trustworthy to "distribute" your daily maintenance dosage.

    Personally, and you can take this for what it's worth (I have been a certificated drug counselor, working specifically with opiate addicts, for more than 10 years now), at your age, and assuming you weren't using anything IV, your best bet would be to curl up in bed for a week or so and tell Moms you have the flu. If you can, cop some clonodine to help you sleep. A few low dose tablets of a mild benzo (no Valium or Xanax lest you end up a polydrug addict) JUST AT BEDTIME for the first 3 days would be ok. Tough it out, and remember every miserable minute of the next week. Get ready to cry at Taco Bell commercials, and prepare for the worst part...spontaneous ejaculation. Those are THE worst. Good luck, buddy. You are in excellent company. Only us intelligent folks abuse opiates; but only the truly smart ones pick up a single, solitary habit that we NEVER again revisit.

    Odus

    ps Stay the hell away from those 24 hour detox places, they will rip you off--if you're lucky that's all they'll do--and you'll still be addicted. I'm not a big 12 step fan, but it has helped alot of folks, so try it. No way around it, you're gonna hurt for a few days, and be tired and worn out for a few weeks. Just remember that pain, so you never do anything that stupid again. And good luck, again.

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    Odus --

    That was a very informative and funny (only because I have been there) post. It is nice to actually hear from someone that is a counselor. Is it true that for someone to get clean it takes about three tries to get it right? And I agree, there is no way you can do it alone. I did the methadone thing and stopped for various reasons and the coming off part sucked a big one. Never wanna do that again! The second time I was given an ultimatum and went into an intensive out-patient rehab and that really helped me the most. Wish I would have found this board when I was going through my deal. I really had nobody to talk to that KNEW what I was going through.

    Oh well, much better times now, that's for sure. Thanks for posting some good information.

    Theresa

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    Thank you for the info Odus.I learned a few things myself.dbuster,you should take Odus's advice as he/she has proffessional experience.Good luck and let us know how you make out.....Dave

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    Hello! I tried for over a year to complete my own opiod-addiction recovery by taking methadone. Did'nt work. I'm very intelligent and able, thought I could do it by myself. Problem is can you stay away from other drugs while doing this? YOU MUST. Take it from me. Another consideration is where the "methadone" is coming from. Mine was 5 yrs. old and it could be poison. The best way to get help without being labeled is to find a private doctor that will prescribe it. The most successful way to stop for people like me is tapering like you wrote, but that may be too fast and uncomfortable just some advice. I hated to tell my mother (did'nt tell Dad) but it was the surest way to stop. The withdraw sucks! You can do it....I am now recovering with doc. help, just don't put it off like I did because it will get worse. You keep strong! And good luck.

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    Wow, I didn't expect such great responses. I am so glad to have the support of other people who truly know what I am going through.

    I have a couple of questions. Can you tell me the benefits of 'tapering', and could you recommend a good dosage schedule for codeine? I would like to take this route and then 'tough it out' after I am only taking a low dosage of codeine. I have been taking methadone for about a week now so I will need to change this over ASAP. I will need to get the correct dosage of codeine and then I will hand it over to my girlfriend who can then administer it.

    I have never used anything IV so I feel that I have that going for me. I am an engineering student here at the local university. I have always felt I was very strong-willed until I became addicted to OxyContin. I am having problems taking 'the first steps' to being clean. Once I commit to a proper tapering schedule with codeine I believe I will be able to quit.

    Also, what mild benzo do you recommend?

    Thanks guys!
    dbuster

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    quote:Originally posted by dbuster00

    Wow, I didn't expect such great responses. I am so glad to have the support of other people who truly know what I am going through.

    I have a couple of questions. Can you tell me the benefits of 'tapering', and could you recommend a good dosage schedule for codeine? I would like to take this route and then 'tough it out' after I am only taking a low dosage of codeine. I have been taking methadone for about a week now so I will need to change this over ASAP. I will need to get the correct dosage of codeine and then I will hand it over to my girlfriend who can then administer it.

    I have never used anything IV so I feel that I have that going for me. I am an engineering student here at the local university. I have always felt I was very strong-willed until I became addicted to OxyContin. I am having problems taking 'the first steps' to being clean. Once I commit to a proper tapering schedule with codeine I believe I will be able to quit.

    Also, what mild benzo do you recommend?

    Thanks guys!
    dbuster
    dbuster --

    You are finally on the right track! Yay! When I started taking methadone, I stopped taking vicodin. I just traded one for the other. When I started methadone, I no longer had the urge or desire to take the vicodin. Try it and see if you can pull it off. I'm not a doctor or anything, it just what worked for me.

    Theresa

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    I am still wondering what the best codeine tapering schedule is for someone like me. Also, can anyone share any information or experiences they have had with tapering?

    Dustin

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    If your serious about stopping, then get help. Your plan is going to go on and on and your girlfriend is going to get real sick of you. I'm not saying you dont have the will power to stop, i'm saying pills are just to addictive. Dont go to a Family doctor, go to an Addictive Specialist. They have good out-patient programs and put you on Suboxone. I just got put on that, and i've been trying to "tapper" down for the last year. But i've always found an excuse to take more.

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    Ok, I am going to take your advice and see a doctor in this area. I am curious though-- how is the Suboxone working out for you, personally? Do you feel well and at the same time, not addicted to the Suboxone?

    Thanks for the support
    dbuster00

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    once you are at the correct dosage you will feel "normal".......Dave

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    4 words "stay away from methadone" not even the withdrawls from iv >>>>>> use is as bad as coming off it. i was raised at the methadone clinic my mother still pays close to $200 a week to dose her mom payed for the first month as a birthday present that was over 9 years ago, if shes so much as an hour late dosing she wakes up drenched in sweat & dry heaving so if yr withdrawls from o.c.'s are that unbearable imagine worse for 10 times as long...

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    I don't know if I'm being redundant but I will say that you're trading one monster for a true demon slipping into the methadone thingy. I'm a past methadone clinic girl and I will NEVER recommend even my worst enemy to get on that stuff! I was inpatient at a clinic, and now have four months clean from coming off of methadone because I was taking up toward 50 #10 hydros per day among many other drugs. Never did the needle thing however. All I can say from going through several withdrawels myself is that methadone is the hardest thing I've ever had to come off of, they say it's the hardest detox period, and from my experience they are correct. That was horrible! I'll never touch that >>>> again in my lifetime! I know one should never say never, but I'm screaming NEVER! The detox itself just about killed me! They couldn't find my pulse, blood pressure and I had NO body temp. I was screamin to die! I really suggest treatment because it was a wonderful experience for me, however I don't live your life and I know everyone's situations are different. I too didn't want to admit to my family/friends that I had this secret problem. And those people I was so afraid of because there is no addiction or alcohol drinkers in my family, are the one's that turned out to be the most supportive loving people in my life and I couldn't do this without their help and support. I was the goodie two shoes of the family who never did wrong, so you can see how hard that might have been to admit for me. Just think really hard. Do you want to totally beat this thing, or do you want to keep TRYING to beat it? I wanted to beat it, because I would have been dead, and I was tired of it beating me!
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    The tapering schedule is tricky because everyone is different. But for most pill addicts taking methadone or Suboxone is the best way. You need to take only enough that it will make you "stable" not high. That means the chills, aches, and diahrria etc. stop but the euphoric feeling is not there. Methadone works up to 36hrs. unlike the oxy. But any longer than that you will be in alot of pain. Taper slowly, weekly or bi-weekly if you can. And wait to stop until you're dose is way low (a few mgs.)to stop. The methadone has helped me alot more than when I used hydrocodone. I don't have the up's and down's that go along with the other (every 4hrs.) And I can sleep through the night. If you have more questions about it, what to expect etc..let me know. (I'm 21 and in college too). Best of luck!
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    i wish you the best in you goals......is ther any where to get methadone w/o goiing to a clinic?i've been on 40-240 mg oc daily for 7 months now very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

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    great information, coming from someone whom is seeking methadone as an alternative to a 24/7/365 OC battle.

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    I am new here, and I just happened to come across your thread, For Gods sake do NOT!! use methadone to come of the oxys!!!!!
    Coming off of the Oxys is NOTHING compared to the Methadone, I have known people that have taken yrs to come off of Methadone, It is not an easy ride by any means.
    Lois ( A concerned Newbie)

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    You have to be careful when useing methadone to detox.You should really go through a clinic or a doctor to do this.Methadone is extremely addictive and has a very long half life.If for example someone was taking 20 mgs of methadone for lets say 6 months and decided to stop cold turkey.The physical withdrawls can last 6 weeks and often more.Thats why you should seek proffessional help.The chances of doing this by yourself is very low.I think it's wonderful that your trying to quit and you should be proud of yourself but make it easier and safer that's all.......Good luck and let us know how your doing....Dave

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    Well everyone, I've finally decided to do it. I am checking myself into detox this morning and then following that up with an out patient program. This forum was my first step to recovery. I will always remember the great responses I got from everyone, as I am finally on the road to being clean. I thank every one of you!

    God bless
    Dustin (dbuster)

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    Good luck Dustin Dont forget to take the LORD with you

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    Just an update...

    I've been 21 days clean. I feel great physically, all of my body functions have seemed to return back to normal. I am a bit weak but that is getting better everyday. What I have been experiencing is pretty much a rebirth-- foods taste different, I'm able to wake up in the morning, my emotions have stabled out a little bit... everything is wonderful. For all the struggling addicts out there, please get help! Life is too precious to waste away--

    Dustin

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    WOW!!!!!!!!! CONGRADULATIONS I am happy for you one day i will be there too. just be strong now and say no have a great day i know you will

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    Way to go Dustin,I'm glad and proud for you.It takes alot more than people realize to go through what you did,I know because I've been there.Have a great life and don't be afraid to give yourself a pat on the back,you deserve it......Dave

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    Hey guys, I found this thread that I started a while ago and just thought I'd post another update. I am 120 days clean today which feels great!!!! It has not been an easy road and there are days where I do think about getting high, however, I choose not to use and I have faith that with time things will get even easier. For everyone out there struggling with addiction, realize that you can get clean if you work for it!

    Thanks everyone again for helping me start my road to recovery--

    Dustin

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    Hi Iam new here and boy would I like to fill a page on this subject buy dont have thatmuch time so bascially all Iam gonna say is stay the heck away from Methadone I have been hooked on it for over a year my Dr gave it to me for fibro I guess not knowing how impossible it is to get quit cause you cant not without hospitalization. Iam still currently taking it cause Iam to scared to go through the W/D's for months, I have a 5yr. old and a single mom so I cannot lay in bed, anyways my advice is please if I have said anything at all to help is just stay away from Methadone for you one safety and life I regret it and cannot tell anyone in my family, my mom just passed away in Nov. from accidental overdose on Hydros so stay away from opiates all together.Shelly feel free to PM anytime.

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    Hi all, this is my first post & I just thought I would give my input on this subject. First of all I have seen so many people go the methadone route and end up with a worse problem. Buprenorphine(suboxone) does work well to combat withdrawl, but I have seen many people revert back to their pill of choice when the therapy is done.

    I think you almost have to feel SOME discomfort in order to have another good reason to not go back.

    What I find to be the best way is to use low doses of clonidine (blood pressure med, so keep the dose low)This will keep the sweats away, then use an over the counter anti-nausea med, Immodium for loose stool, & taking ultram at 100mg(2 pills) every 6 hours. Only use the ultram for 1 week so that you don't end up dependant on that as well.

    With this method, the withdrawl is still there but completely tolerable.

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    Way to go Dustin.You are and should be an inspiration to all of us.......Dave

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