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    OOOOOOOh, little shorts?! Are you sure you're not going to work in the B&G? Is there a pole involved in this job?

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    Ha, no poles i think. But my new job title as a mail escort will look real nice on my tax return. Im sure i can make it to ladies night at the B&G and strut my stuff. As long as lvg's cowboys give me a chance and quit hogging the stage. Those boys are pushy.....
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    LOL! Yes, that is title that will impress! Let us know when you can make it and we'll schedule you as a special guest dancer! We'll even make Somo get off the stage for you! Just make sure you wear those little shorts! Cinderblock will miss you, though, poor lil' guy! Congrats on the new job! I've often thought of applying for that same job myself. I mean....I'm sure the USPS is always needing new psychotic mass murderers...(kidding....kidding....I don't think you're a murderer. Catch ME in the middle of phen withdrawals, and I might be just the gal for the job, however!) Sounds like you are doing great...I'm so happy for you! ((hugs))





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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefaroni7272 View Post
    I wish i had more info for you but my phenibut experience is limited to what ive read from your thread. Im sure that you just gotta take it slow just like every other part of this process. You know what youre doing here. We all know you got this.

    Well lets see. Packed up the family and strapped Armando to the roof of my car and headed down to sunny Florida. The girls absolutley love it down here. Got a job for the time being as a line cook in a nice restaurant. Pay is decent but its a kitchen job with no benefits or opportunity for advancement. However when we got here i took the advice of a very wise friend of mine and applied for the post office. Fast forward a month and 4 background checks, 473 exam, interview, and a drug test that i finally didnt have to worry about. (Whoo hoo) and now im just waiting for an email to tell me when i start. Gonna be a few weeks of orientation. But its a career with amazing benefits. And there is nobody who will look as good as i will in those little shorts. Lol. But thats about all from here. Still living life on lifes terms and taking it one day at a time.

    Hope you have a great night!!
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    BTW, Beef, how did Armondo like his ride on the roof?

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    Found You Ryka/Leah987.....Wow....Tried reading up on Most of Your thread! What a wild Journey You Have been on!! I'm Sorry for all the stuff your going thru right Now....Actually every since You Beat the "BEAST" Down!! Great job on that....I hope and Pray You get this other stuff worked out!! I am finishing Day 46 Today....and yeah....Sleep is still up and down....But I know from experience.....it will take Patience.....I know it will come.....Just wish it would hurry up!! For the most part though.....I am OK!! Hang in there Ryka….You got Lots of Good Support HERE!! Proud of YOU! Stay Strong Just For TODAY!!..xo
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    Hi, dave! Welcome to my thread. Wanna' cuppa coffee? Actually, this is my 3rd thread. I've tried to find my 1st one, and couldn't. It is buried deep inside the mountain of old threads somewhere. So glad you are doing well. You are one strong guy, you will beat this! I have much faith in you. ((hugs))
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    Hey, Guys, guess what I just did? I just survived a whole night without chlonidine! WHUP-WHUP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah987 View Post
    Hey, Guys, guess what I just did? I just survived a whole night without chlonidine! WHUP-WHUP!
    Nice.....That IS Good News!! Hope You Have A Great Day ..Ryka!!..Stay Strong Just For TODAY! Ps...I actually slept Pretty Good last night for a change....Whup....Whup!..
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    Ok....another night without clonidine. I see Dr. Pain Management this afternoon, and may be attending a hinter's banquet tonight. Then, it's off to see Dr. Sawbones tomorrow. So.....at least I'm staying busy!

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    Ok, ya'll......pray for me, cross your fingers, cross your toes, wish me luck. I'm attempting another rather large taper today. as per Dr. S's instructions. Another 50% cut! Needless to say....I will be keeping myself busy ALL day long....can't get outside, it's all rain and mudpuddles. I'm bringing out the crayons, just in case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah987 View Post
    Ok, ya'll......pray for me, cross your fingers, cross your toes, wish me luck. I'm attempting another rather large taper today. as per Dr. S's instructions. Another 50% cut! Needless to say....I will be keeping myself busy ALL day long....can't get outside, it's all rain and mudpuddles. I'm bringing out the crayons, just in case...
    Hey girl,
    That's a big drop eh. Yay mud puddles lol
    Yep keep busy all you can do think positive
    I'll be praying for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah987 View Post
    Ok....another night without clonidine. I see Dr. Pain Management this afternoon, and may be attending a hinter's banquet tonight. Then, it's off to see Dr. Sawbones tomorrow. So.....at least I'm staying busy!
    ....And for those of you who may be wondering what a "hinter's banquet" is....it's a lot like a hunter's banquet! Don't ya'll just absolutely love typos?

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    Thank you so much, friends, for the prayers, the crossed fingers and the crossed toes....so far, I'm doing ok on my newly tapered dose, plus the clonidine, of course. Hopefully, I'll be able to cut out the clonidine for the latter part of the week, the way I did last week. No point in getting addicted to THAT, now is there? Dr. S told me to take it every night while tapering, but I'm hoping that taking it 3 to 4 nights a week instead will keep me from becoming addicted. After all, even tho I'm on a fast taper, it will still be rather long and drawn out, and I'm thinking about the actual jump at the end, and how it will probably be so much worse than the taper. I want this clonidine to be still working for me then. Anyone have experience with that? Am I doing the right thing? I'm doin' this ya'll!

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    Hi! Ur doing great. I know it's not easy. But u can do it. I'm crossing my fingers n toes n praying for ur success. I don't hv much time but want to say hi n wish u well
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    Hi, all. Still doing ok on my 1 capsule/day taper. Cut out the clonidine again last night. Slept ok. WHEW! The mental aspect of tapering phenibut is not for the squeemish. I can still work myself up into a mild anxiety attack even on the clonidine. But with the clonidine, I can work myself back down. That helps a tad bit.

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    Fifth day of my 1 capsule/day taper. Today, anxiety is not a problem. (so far) Since 2 days ago, pain is the problem. The pain is sneaking slowly back in, folks. I suspect this is where it really starts getting hard. I have my tylenol 3, but I've taken it 2 days in a row already, and I'm trying to not get hooked on codeine on top of everything else. Dr. Pain Management prescribed 2 tablets/day, as needed. I seem to remember someone here telling me that an addict on pain management was on a slippery slope. Yep. It's getting slippery already. I'm even entertaining thoughts of halting my taper and staying on the phenibut at 1 capsule/day.....advice, please....someone come kick my butttt up between my shoulders for even THINKING it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah987 View Post
    Fifth day of my 1 capsule/day taper. Today, anxiety is not a problem. (so far) Since 2 days ago, pain is the problem. The pain is sneaking slowly back in, folks. I suspect this is where it really starts getting hard. I have my tylenol 3, but I've taken it 2 days in a row already, and I'm trying to not get hooked on codeine on top of everything else. Dr. Pain Management prescribed 2 tablets/day, as needed. I seem to remember someone here telling me that an addict on pain management was on a slippery slope. Yep. It's getting slippery already. I'm even entertaining thoughts of halting my taper and staying on the phenibut at 1 capsule/day.....advice, please....someone come kick my butttt up between my shoulders for even THINKING it!!!
    Hi Leah - you're always in my thoughts. I'm not back by any means yet, but I'm "here". Don't know phenibut (and thanks to you I'll never try it:-) but I DO know codeine!!! I'm still cycling in and out monthly and it becomes more and more tiring and frustrating. Problem with codeine, it sounds so innocent. I'm sorry but I laughed out loud reading your doc's 2 tabs/day as needed. We're all different of course, but basically an addict is an addict - my current is pills. The 2/day so very quickly became 12-16 and that affects your stomach, mind, anxiety and so much more. Be very careful - innocent does not equal non-dangerous. Right now, I supplement with behind the counter tylenol that has 8mg in it - such a psychological thing!! Just waiting for my (possibly) last script to be okay to pick up.

    You'd mentioned med. mj in earlier posts. It may not be 'legal' in your state, but for the past few months maybe 3, I've been using cbd oil .5mg every morning and my pain level gradually has gone down to perhaps a 1 with tiny flareups a couple times a week. You may be able to pick some up in some kind of natural-type hippy store you might have in your area. Doesn't have the psycoactive thc in it, so it is all natural.

    Turning into a bit of a ramble. I know pain and what it can do to us when it's happening 24/7 - willing to go to any lengths to relieve it. Just be so careful with the codeine. It happens so quickly and quietly, I didn't even realize it. I'm stuck on the fence wondering which way to "go to any lengths" to maybe now get off this stuff - but the script looms large in my future.

    Trust me when I say I've been checking in with the few who were around when I first started posting and you're one big one of them!! Thanks Leah. All our journeys are individual - some instant success, others not so much. Hopefully we keep on plugging . . .
    xo for now, Elcey
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    I can't imagine the position ur in. U are very brave and strong. I feel terrible that you have to experience ur physical pain as well as dealing with a taper and all that ur going through. I don't have any experience with phenibut or physical pain/pain management. I do have tremendous experience with addiction, WD, tapering "issues" and of course anxiety. As I said I think ur incredibly strong and brave and you are making progress! Prob not a good idea with codein on day 3. But remember you can do this. And you are without a doubt very strong! You know what to do.... I just want to wish you well, pray ur ok and just support ya!

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    Ryka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcey View Post
    Hi Leah - you're always in my thoughts. I'm not back by any means yet, but I'm "here". Don't know phenibut (and thanks to you I'll never try it:-) but I DO know codeine!!! I'm still cycling in and out monthly and it becomes more and more tiring and frustrating. Problem with codeine, it sounds so innocent. I'm sorry but I laughed out loud reading your doc's 2 tabs/day as needed. We're all different of course, but basically an addict is an addict - my current is pills. The 2/day so very quickly became 12-16 and that affects your stomach, mind, anxiety and so much more. Be very careful - innocent does not equal non-dangerous. Right now, I supplement with behind the counter tylenol that has 8mg in it - such a psychological thing!! Just waiting for my (possibly) last script to be okay to pick up.

    You'd mentioned med. mj in earlier posts. It may not be 'legal' in your state, but for the past few months maybe 3, I've been using cbd oil .5mg every morning and my pain level gradually has gone down to perhaps a 1 with tiny flareups a couple times a week. You may be able to pick some up in some kind of natural-type hippy store you might have in your area. Doesn't have the psycoactive thc in it, so it is all natural.

    Turning into a bit of a ramble. I know pain and what it can do to us when it's happening 24/7 - willing to go to any lengths to relieve it. Just be so careful with the codeine. It happens so quickly and quietly, I didn't even realize it. I'm stuck on the fence wondering which way to "go to any lengths" to maybe now get off this stuff - but the script looms large in my future.

    Trust me when I say I've been checking in with the few who were around when I first started posting and you're one big one of them!! Thanks Leah. All our journeys are individual - some instant success, others not so much. Hopefully we keep on plugging . . .
    xo for now, Elcey
    ELCEYYYYYYYYYYY! So great to hear from you! I thought you had dropped off the face of the earth or moved to Trinidad or something! If I have deterred you or anyone else here on the forum from ever trying phenibut, then I've done a great thing. Since I've been researching tapering off phenibut, I've read that the withdrawals are similar to those of >>>>>>. I know nothing about >>>>>>, but somehow, I believe that! The stuff really gets a death grip on you. Physically and mentally. They conviently leave out that part when you're trying to research it, tho. Sure, they admit it's addictive....but they don't tell you HOW addictive. It's not until you start withdrawing and specifically look up "phenibut withdrawals" that you get a lil' bit of the truth of what you're taking.....and this is a PLANT, ya'll. Never make the mistake of thinking because it's a natural plant that it couldn't be THAT bad.....it IS!!!!!!!! Thanks for the CBD oil recommendation, but tho I can get it here, it's legal, it's cost pohibitive, at least to ME it is. No way I can afford it. Already checked in to it. I've also had friends try it. It worked great for them, but, they had to quit because of the cost.Thanks for the head's up on the codeine, also. Sounds like a convo I need to have with Dr. Pain Management next time I see him. Altho,the way things go for me, he'll just tell me take it or don't take it, it's up to me. So, yep, Elcey, don't EVER try phenibut.....it will work so great in the beginning you'll think it's a Godsend. You'll be very wrong. It took me about 8 months to find out for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geez_again View Post
    I can't imagine the position ur in. U are very brave and strong. I feel terrible that you have to experience ur physical pain as well as dealing with a taper and all that ur going through. I don't have any experience with phenibut or physical pain/pain management. I do have tremendous experience with addiction, WD, tapering "issues" and of course anxiety. As I said I think ur incredibly strong and brave and you are making progress! Prob not a good idea with codein on day 3. But remember you can do this. And you are without a doubt very strong! You know what to do.... I just want to wish you well, pray ur ok and just support ya!
    Hi, Geeze, thanks for the advice about the codeine. Just think. They put that stuff in cough syrup! Thanks for the encouragement, but I don't feel brave or strong. I feel tired, weak, afraid, and miserable. Thanks for the prayer. I can use all the prayer I can get! Drop in to my thread anytime!

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    I understand exactly how u feel. Try to redirect ur thoughts as I feel strong, I can do this, etc. it takes much practice but eventually it will help. U CAN do this n u will succeed. U ARE doing this! I know deeply how difficult our minds can influence our thoughts but we are stronger than thoughts. U are a warrior n u will continue with ur success. U are no doubt in my thoughts n my prayers n I wish u well on ur continued success. Keep strong! U got this! Be well.
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    Thanks, Geeze, I'm going to try to think positively, tho it is difficult for me to do today, because I start skip days tomorrow. I'm scared of every taper, and here I am facing taking NO phenibut tomorrow. It's only 24 hours, right? I can do this. I'm sure it will be a loooooooong, precarious day, tho. Question: I've never done skip days before. Ever. I've been tapering down my phenibut every week. Starting tomorrow, I'll be taking 1 phenabut every other day. Do I do this for a week also? Longer? For 3 days only before I start 1 every 3 days? I'm confused. How have ya'll done skip days???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah987 View Post
    Thanks, Geeze, I'm going to try to think positively, tho it is difficult for me to do today, because I start skip days tomorrow. I'm scared of every taper, and here I am facing taking NO phenibut tomorrow. It's only 24 hours, right? I can do this. I'm sure it will be a loooooooong, precarious day, tho. Question: I've never done skip days before. Ever. I've been tapering down my phenibut every week. Starting tomorrow, I'll be taking 1 phenabut every other day. Do I do this for a week also? Longer? For 3 days only before I start 1 every 3 days? I'm confused. How have ya'll done skip days???????
    I think you should do it for one week. That way your body will have time to adjust to days without, then you'd do it every third day. It's almost noon here, so you're in it now Leah!! Great start. You're correct - it IS only one day, but if you can try and be excited that you're making progress and a real effort, that will likely help you.

    I shouldn't even be giving advice considering my current situation. I just know that in the past if I've had a little trouble with getting low on my sleeping medication, that's how I'd handle it. Be excited - sometimes nervous energy is better than inertia (where I'm at right now).

    You should be so proud of yourself. Please keep posting so I and others know how you're doing throughout the day.
    Hugs, Elcey

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    Elcey, I'll take your advice anytime, regardless of your current situation... I trust you!! Thanks! and ((hugs))
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    So far, so good, peeps! No anxiety, no pain, just a really annoying hayfever attack!

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    Still so far, so good. Now if I can just go to sleep, I'll be perfect.

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    I slept, and I'm alive.... and doing ok. No anxiety, minimal pain, and even minimal allergy symptoms. Yee-haw!

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    Still doing ok, peeps, just finding myself relying on the clonidine a little more with the every-other- day schedule. Oh, well.
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