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Help! Doctor Stopping Adderall Without Warning
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    Hi all,

    I've been taking Adderall for about 8 years now. Currently I am prescribed 3 x 20MG's of Adderall a day. My last prescription was only for 2 x 20MG a day, as my doctor accidently wrote for 2 instead of 3. I filled my last prescription on the 1st of April. I notified my doctor about a week ago about the problem and she had me come in on Thursday, April 19th to get the correct dosage. I had run out on the 17th and came down to get a prescription for 5 days from the secretary. I did so, but she also wrote it out for only 2x20mg a day. So I ran out this morning and had tried to fill my prescription last night, Friday the 20th. The pharmacists gave me trouble (went to 3 pharmacies) saying it was too early and they refused to fill it until the 22nd. Today I went down again and they said they had to call the doctor before they filled it. Well guess what she did? She called and told me that she feels that I need to come off of it because she's afraid I'm abusing it, which I'm not. She told the pharmacy to NOT fill the prescription and told me she doesn't feel combfortable prescribing it anymore. I've taken the medication EVERY day for 8 years.

    She's not even willing to slowly take me off of it. I'm afraid of what's going to happen if I don't get it immediately. I fear for my safety, sanity and others, I just put 3 holes in my wall. If my doctor dares to section 8 me I have no doubt in my mind that something awful will happen. I would rather die than go into a hospitol.

    Is this even legal? Isn't this considered patient neglect? What can I do?

    -Nick

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    Nick:
    I'm new to this forum, but if everything you say is correct, then your doctor has a responsibility to make sure you are not left in a situation such as this. It is certainly neglectful and highly unethical. Having been a very similar situation, all I can offer is my experience. First, I am a Canadian so some of this might differ but I hope not too much so.
    Have you discussed this with your doctor? It might just be a matter of explaining your situation. If you haven't already, sit down with her and explain the circumstances as you see it and express your concers with regards to immediate withdrawal. Be completely honest! That will get you much further than any story that you can come up with.
    If this doesn't work, then I would suggest you have two alternatives. You can make an appointment with another doctor or go to your local emergency room. Again, be brutally honest with the doctor and explain everything exactly as it happened. Again, express your concerns with withdrawal. Any doctor with an ounce of compassion (and ethics) will not leave you in this situation but I can't overempathize the 'BE BRUTALLY HONEST" point.
    As I mentioned, I did have something similar happen and I understand exactly how you are feeling!! The fear and anxiety of being cut off can be worse than the actual withdrawal. Not only that, I was both humiliated and angry. I wasn't sure where to begin. But... I can tell you that it did work out for me -and quickly. The first doctor I saw had no sympathy ( i learned later the pharmacist had called all the other docs in town and passed on the first docs message -this was a small town) This served to further crush my spirit. I didn't bother going to the emergency room since this was all the same pool of doctors, but I did go to the next town over -to a walk-in clinic. I explained in exact detail everything that had happened and then asked for both help and advice! This new doc gave me enough prescription to get by and then asked me to see a specialist to confirm that the medication I was on/ and the dosage/ was the proper protocol for my condition. He said once this was confirmed, he would continue on as my doc and provide prescriptions. He was true to his word and I saw him for three years before moving to another province. He even provided a 'letter of introduction' for me to take so that I didn't have any issues when hooking up with a new doc. To this day, I believe the fact that I was very honest with him about what happened and the fact that I asked for his advise on how I should handle this problem was the key to getting his understanding.
    Now..if none of this works - you might have to get more aggressive. Go to your ER and refuse to leave until you get some sort of assistance. You just can't be left in this state- it can actually be dangerous to your health to go through withdrawal and hence the reason why I state that she was unethical in her dealings with you. If anything, you should have been tapered off or put on a substitution to deal with any issues that might arise. At the ER, if they still won't help you, ask for the number of your state's medical governing board or ombudsman. Call them while you are standing there in the foyer and explain the situation. At the very least, they can provide you with what steps you should take to see this resolve. My hope for you, however, is that someone will realize that you have been left in a very bad situation and will offer you some assistance. Take a deep breath, collect your thoughts and start dialing. Please let me know how this all goes?
    My very best wishes, Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolseley View Post
    Nick:
    I'm new to this forum, but if everything you say is correct, then your doctor has a responsibility to make sure you are not left in a situation such as this. It is certainly neglectful and highly unethical. Having been a very similar situation, all I can offer is my experience. First, I am a Canadian so some of this might differ but I hope not too much so.
    Have you discussed this with your doctor? It might just be a matter of explaining your situation. If you haven't already, sit down with her and explain the circumstances as you see it and express your concers with regards to immediate withdrawal. Be completely honest! That will get you much further than any story that you can come up with.
    If this doesn't work, then I would suggest you have two alternatives. You can make an appointment with another doctor or go to your local emergency room. Again, be brutally honest with the doctor and explain everything exactly as it happened. Again, express your concerns with withdrawal. Any doctor with an ounce of compassion (and ethics) will not leave you in this situation but I can't overempathize the 'BE BRUTALLY HONEST" point.
    As I mentioned, I did have something similar happen and I understand exactly how you are feeling!! The fear and anxiety of being cut off can be worse than the actual withdrawal. Not only that, I was both humiliated and angry. I wasn't sure where to begin. But... I can tell you that it did work out for me -and quickly. The first doctor I saw had no sympathy ( i learned later the pharmacist had called all the other docs in town and passed on the first docs message -this was a small town) This served to further crush my spirit. I didn't bother going to the emergency room since this was all the same pool of doctors, but I did go to the next town over -to a walk-in clinic. I explained in exact detail everything that had happened and then asked for both help and advice! This new doc gave me enough prescription to get by and then asked me to see a specialist to confirm that the medication I was on/ and the dosage/ was the proper protocol for my condition. He said once this was confirmed, he would continue on as my doc and provide prescriptions. He was true to his word and I saw him for three years before moving to another province. He even provided a 'letter of introduction' for me to take so that I didn't have any issues when hooking up with a new doc. To this day, I believe the fact that I was very honest with him about what happened and the fact that I asked for his advise on how I should handle this problem was the key to getting his understanding.
    Now..if none of this works - you might have to get more aggressive. Go to your ER and refuse to leave until you get some sort of assistance. You just can't be left in this state- it can actually be dangerous to your health to go through withdrawal and hence the reason why I state that she was unethical in her dealings with you. If anything, you should have been tapered off or put on a substitution to deal with any issues that might arise. At the ER, if they still won't help you, ask for the number of your state's medical governing board or ombudsman. Call them while you are standing there in the foyer and explain the situation. At the very least, they can provide you with what steps you should take to see this resolve. My hope for you, however, is that someone will realize that you have been left in a very bad situation and will offer you some assistance. Take a deep breath, collect your thoughts and start dialing. Please let me know how this all goes?
    My very best wishes, Nick.
    Hey,

    Luckily the doctor finally called me back at about 1030 pm saturday night. She really has no idea what's best for me. I had been talking to my mom before about finding a new doctor as I felt she doesn't have the time for me and doesn't really know what's best for me. She diagnosed me bi-polar awhile ago just from talking to my mom and my family history (2 cases on my mom's side.) Last year I got really messed up with my medications, they put me on Lamictal, Ativan and then Zoloft. After becoming therapeutic on the Zoloft I became manic. I started ****************************************, sleeping every 36-48 hours and taking more and more Adderall. In December of 05, on christmas, I went to my parent's house to pickup my prescriptions (doctor said she had mailed them.) Instead, she sent a letter stating to find a new doctor and that she won't prescribe me ANY meds anymore. I was out of all my meds and went nuts. I had a 2004 Dodge SRT-4 w/ a 20G turbo (325 h.p) and sped off. I was flying down the road, doing something like 80 in a 30 and passed by a cop. The cop put his lights on and I bolted (i was withdrawing so badly.) I hit about 130mph while in a 30 and tried to take a quick turn onto a different street to get away. Instead, I was met with a brickwall going atleast 80mph still. I ended up walking away without a scratch on me (seatbelts save lives, 2nd time for me!) Ended up going to the ER just incase and asked the doctor there for a week or 2 worth of medication because my bottles were in the car (I lied!)

    Ended up finding a new doctor who was willing to prescribe me 120MG a day. In July of 06 I was down 70 LBS, (all muscle) still sleeping every other day, doing nothing with my life, using my parents CC's ect. My parent's forced me to go to the ER to check myself into the mental hospitol to get help but they wouldn't admit me and told me that I just needed to find a therapist and they gave me an appointment with their 'program' in 2 days. I ended up going and this time my mom called them and told them some lies and they pulled some sketchy thing called a 'section 8.' A section 8 is when any medical person (whether it's a nurse, fire fighter, police officer, doctor, SOCIAL WORKER or someone similar) thinks someone needs to go to the mental hospitol for any reason. When I figured out what the social worker was doing, I tried leaving. She grabbed me (assualt) and I raised my fist at her, forcing her to either get KO'd or let me go. Well unfortunately, there was an ambulance already there for someone else. She screamed for the ambulance guys to grab me. Two guys tried to restrain my tiny 5'9 115 LB body but they couldn't beat the adrenaline and I tossed them both. Well that took too much time and about 15 officers showed up and I instantly went completely calm, helped both the paramedics back up (one guy was 250+ lbs+ too) and got in the ambulance. On the ride I was joking around with them about the incidient and was very apologetic. Ect Ect Ect. I spent 8 days in the mental hospitol where they wouldn't allow me to have my Adderall, smoke a butt, or even look out the window.

    I tried for about a month to live without the Adderall but I just couldn't do it. Ended up going back to my original doctor (the two time neglect one) who prescribed me 20mg a day in september. Been back on it since and don't think I will ever be able to come off of it. I've been taking 60mg consistently for the past 4-5 months and don't feel I need anymore than that. It works the same as it did 5 months ago. I've been taking serequel (50mg before bed) Depakote (500mg before bed) and Trazadone (50mg before bed) along with the Adderall. When I was in the hospitol they told both me and my mom that they couldn't find anything that made them believe I was bi-polar. The last time I truly was happy (and I've told my doctor this) was when I just took Adderall. Luckily I have the most wonderful girlfriend in the world who's stuck by my side through all of this. I'm back up to 160 LBS and I sleep everynight atleast 7 hours, which I feel is the most important thing for me.

    Ok getting back to the situation, I spent all day saturday losing my mind, paging my doctor all day and trying to get my prescription filled. She told the pharmacy NOT to fill it EARLY. Of course, she didn't tell me that until 1030 pm saturday night. At 12am it wasn't going to be early anymore so I went to pickup my prescription and fill it somewhere else. Well guess what the Pharmacist did? The same one who gave me ******************** about it being a day early (never, EVER had that problem before) decided to be even more of a *************************. I asked for the script back from her and she said ok, I saw her writing something with a red pen and just figured she was making a note that it was given back or whatever. So I take it, apologize for giving her attitude earlier and leave. As I'm walking to my car I look on the back of it and she had wrote "DO NOT FILL" on it in red pen! I went in and asked her to please remove it, she REFUSED TO DO IT! I asked her about 15 times to please do it and that I had spoken with the doctor and told her what she said. She told me too bad and she wasn't taking it off unless the doctor called her and instructed her to do so. I used every single ounce of strength in my body not to jump over the counter and smash her face. She threatened to call the police (I told her go ahead, she's the one committing a felony) so I left. I ended up grabbing a red pen and shading the "DO NOT FILL" out with red pen. I brought the script to another pharmacy at 1230 am and told the guy the situation. Luckily the guy/kid was incredibley cool (he looked no older than 23) and completely understood the situation. I gave him the old bottle from the 5 day script so that he could override the insurance rejection due to it being early (it was a change in dosage.) He told me that the insurance network was down and to call him in an hour or 2. Well I called all the way until 6 am when I went to bed and the insurance was still down. I asked him if he could fill it right when the insurance comes back up and either I or my gf will be down to pick it up sometime in the morning.

    I went to bed and woke up at 2pm from my girlfriend shaking the bottle in my face! One of the best moments of my life..

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