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Concerned with lack of serious withdrawls
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    tiredofbeingfaced is offline New Member
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    Default Concerned with lack of serious withdrawls

    Hey all
    Please i need advice. I decided last weekend was my time to detox. The wife was gone Friday and Saturday so perfect time for my "flu" I took last heavy dose nasally about 60 mg perc and 90 mg morphine. I was on about 20 mg perc and 60 morphine for about three years the last year nasally only. I was really concerned by the lack of physical pain and feared that taking flexeril to help sleep for four days was delaying my symptoms. Last night I took NyQuil only and slept until 5 am from 11:30 pm do I try to sleep on my own tonight or keep cheating with NyQuil. I had no libido and beginning of ED problems that's why I gave them up amongst other things. How long until my sex drive is back to normal and what should I expect over the next few weeks? I am at the 5 day mark as of 6:30 today. Please tell me what's next so I can set goals and look forward to getting back to normal

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    I don't really consider Nyquil cheating, but that's just me. So Friday was your last dose? Today is day 4?

    I have read many stories.....and seems most people, men and women, get the 'drive' back after about 5 days. But, I'm sure that is dependent on each individual.

    Sounds like you are breezing through, so just relax, stay busy, and things will get back to normal (whatever that is...lol) pretty soon.

    If you can sleep (which lack of, seems to be the biggest bug-a-boo) consider yourself lucky. Your dosage isn't that huge, so be prepared for the mental battle.....carry on, and keep moving forward....you sound like you are doing pretty well, Tired....good luck!
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    Thanks Silver, I think I mentally prepared pretty well. I do affirmations at night and in the morning about being off pills. I started researching about a month ago and kept putting it off. Thursday at 6:30 pm was my last dose so I think I'm on five days. I wish I could say I had any reason to start or stay on pills but I just liked the feeling at first then it just became my constant thoughts and my days revolved around my next dose. I have 3 kids 12,9,6 and am the household earner so I need to be drug free. I think I will take less NyQuil tonight but I'm taking a day off the elliptical so hope that doesn't bite me.
    Thanks for taking the time to respond it means a lot to know someone is pulling for me. I work with a guy who has workers comp and pretty much unlimited access, funny how he doesn't want me to stop so he has control over me.

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    Then congrats on day 5, Tired.....you are over the hump. You really should start feeling better every day now.

    Yeah, funny how our supplier never wants us to be free....does he charge you?

    You are doing great...keep it up.....exercise is key! Keeping busy is key! But, with 3 kids at those ages....I'd venture to say you are pretty busy, no?

    Awesome job. No more worrying about pills is going to be one of the greatest freedoms you experience. The sex drive coming back will be pretty good, too....lol.

    Please keep posting to us, to let us know how you are progressing....it helps a lot of people.
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    2 more hours until 7 days clean. I do think about the pills often and when I face stressful situations (OSHA coming to my job) I try to justify taking one or two and feeling that instant warmth and general feeling that I came to LOVE. I will keep pushing because it was starting to lead to troubles with the home life and work took a second seat to the pills. My libido is increasing now and I did experience the joy of looking up at the trees and sky in my backyard while my youngest played on the trampoline. It is nice to get up and not worry about what times to spread out my pills and worry that if I get caught somewhere without pills I would feel like >>>>. I work with a guy who supplied me for free but he reports to me and it could be a problem down the road, now I could pass a drug test if anyone ever questioned me and that feels awesome. When I look back the first three days were not that bad, definitely staying ahead of the symptoms helped plenty of Tylenol, restless legs cream, and vitamins. Having a few flexeril to help sleep those first couple of days was a big help. Anyone considering if its worth the discomfort, I would say absolutely. These pills are demons and there is an epidemic with the opiates even if you are a well educated professional when you start out it will play mind games and you will do whatever to keep the good times rolling.
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    Congrats on one week...tired....

    Just stick with it....not worth all you will lose. You were lucky and caught in in time, so keep moving forward and let us know how you are doing!!!

    Good job! And know that in time....you will feel that warmth all on your own....with no pills, just the way your body was supposed to handle things.
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    I think mental preparation and the ability to get sleep goes a LONG way when it comes to dealing with withdrawals..in fact its probably the most beneficial thing you can do to combat symptoms in my opinion...problem is most people just cant get to sleep because of the extreme RLS. Also keep in mind that while nyquil isnt a an opiate drug, the dependency on a sleep aid can be the start of a problem if you already have a problem with addiction. I'd tough it out on a friday night and just go without. Sleep will most likely come by harder, but it wont be a physical thing, it'll be mental meaning you can overcome it...and you'll feel better off for it in the following days. I know that while I can get to sleep (2 weeks after quitting) I still wake up like clockwork at around 3 in the morning. Luckily I'm able to go back to sleep after a cig and an hour of reading.

    Just stick with it man. Speaking for myself I know the urges to go pick some up can come and go, but I remind myself by coming here where that road will lead.

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    Still plugging along, at the 25 day mark, still mentally a little off, not finding tons of happiness. Got off the nyquill and have been sleeping pretty good, can no longer fall back asleep in the mornings after I wake up the first time 6:30. used to be able to lay back down and get another 30 minutes. I do wonder when I would be able to just take a couple pills and not have to worry about withdrawals but I know that is a really bad idea, I will have to be committed to drug free life from here on out. Thanks to all for the advise, I am glad to not have to worry about how many pills I have left and planning my days around when I can dose and being disappointed when I took the last one for the day.

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    Thanks for updating us, tired.....

    Trust me on this...one pill will lead you right back to where you came from. It took me 4 times to learn that, ONE PILL is too much, and a thousand pills aren't enough!!!!

    Your natural endorphins will keep firing away now, exercise is key, and you will find that happiness all on your own. You are doing great,.....keep us informed,.....we love hearing success stories!

    Freedom from the pills is nice, though, no?
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    Sunday was the 30 day mark so I'm on day 33. It is nice on the other side of life. I watch intervention and see all the people struggling with addiction and it gets me emotional. All the times I was on pills I always felt really guilty for cheating my kids and wife. I was purely recreational so I know there are lots of people who really need the pills for pain management but I would encourage all thinking about taking the plunge it can be done and I was glad when the first 4 days were over but its a mental game that if you prepare for and stay strong you will get through it and the results will be worth the inconvenience. Thanks to all supporters who posted and other threads to give me the strength to tackle this head on.

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    Before reading keep in mind I Stopped not because a desire to be clean and sober but a desire to no longer have that as a component of my life......

    Hope this helps
    In 8 days I ll be opiate free for a year, before I quit I was Taking 60 mg of hydrocodone on top of 180 mg of morphine sulfite daily at the time, I am a spinal surgery candidate. decided enough was enough tired of everything associated with it the docs, the pharmacy and how people would treat me because of the meds prescribed.I felt empty and lonely at this time and wanted off so I started reading comments on this site about people eventually being prescribed up-to 6 times the dose I was on, even read up on sub and heard of the horror stories about it. So I went to my doctor as usual and expressed I wanted off their reply"here is your slips and we will talk about it next month"(3rd mention to the doc BTW) So totally bummed at that point I went to my pharmacy I had been going to for 7 years and dropped of the slips, an hour later got a call from them saying I was red flagged(Walgreen's) and it could take up-to 90days before they fill, in a panic straight to the doctor "ok we will write you another for tramadol till the doctor comes in on Monday, well Monday came and went...So Tuesday I stumble Into the doctors office in full withdrawl asked what happened..we called it in.. at this point an absolute hatred towards the drugs, the doctor and the whole shebang bloomed..Handed the slips told her I will no longer be a patient of yours and I quit!!!

    Not gonna lie took about thirty days before I started to feel about 70% and two weeks after to feel 90% the aches last awhile but exercise helps. I am going to break down how I did it I don't recommend it was probably not the best way....

    1) this part is key..You have to hate the drugs to your very core literally if you could kill it you would hatred.

    2) communicate to somebody what your planning on doing, safety first (for me this was important cuz I live alone)

    3) fill your belly with food and make your self eat while your doing this even if it's just saltines. eating helps with the nausea, stomach cramps and bubble guts avoid stuff like Imodium d it will dehydrate you and make it worse. (keep in mind your digestive system is trying to rid itself of the toxins)

    4) your mind will fill with epiphanies, depression, anger and just plain craziness so express it any way you can this stuff will make you not want to be off of the meds so get it off your chest

    5) three days later try eating rice it soaks up all the nastiness in your guts, drink OJ & water sips at first,OJ? Yes because this whole process is going to drain your serotonin levels and the water is obvious...

    6) after two weeks exercise even though your body and mind will be like no way! Exercise helps, it may be out of your system but not your bones and this helps with aches, the tightness in your limbs and joints

    7) SUN! Lay out if you can. Your not looking to get a tan. Just to feel the warmth and soak up the vitamin d so if you can only stand it for a few minutes that's fine you'll be surprised how much your body will crave it

    8) Anxiety, raw nerves, short temper and the weight on your chest ..well this one I chose to mention some will believe it's a big no no... the withdrawl symptoms are part mental, neurological and physical they will go away but not for a while so I imagine if you're using a doctor to help you get off your medication they're probably weaning you off then giving you valium or something like that , but as I mentioned before I developed a hatred towards my doc.. so not an option, I went natural...medical grade cannabis it helped.

    After the last statement I could just hear all the clean and sober ones rolling over in their graves screaming to high hell, don't I chose to get the opiates out of my life because they were ruining me, my pain was not getting better and they were staring to take control.UNNACETABLE! MY MIND SCREAMED!, then the anger towards all of it was born. Today I'm free of it I won't even take any kind of over the counter pain killer and I no longer smoke. the pain still comes from time to time but just the thought of no longer having opiates in my life helps.me forget the pain and I'm no longer angry.

    Well hope this helped. Oh, just because this worked for me does not mean it will for you. addiction is a fickle >>>>>, she will let some of us go lightly and others it is all out war for freedom..be strong if you truly desire that freedom, you will achieve it. It won't be easy my friends and it can be a life long battle for most but it will be worth it.

    One last thing, " pain management specialist" = legal pusher. They make their money by keeping you on drugs and the feds mostly cool with it because they get their cut

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    So I fell off the wagon. I stupidly hit my guy up for two doses last week. I spread them out over two days and then went into the weekend without any and hoped I wouldn't go through withdraw. I did not have any physical symptoms but mentally I started thinking when can I have them again, how long do I have to wait etc. Monday morning my mind started telling me it had been long enough and if I only use two days then go off I will be fine. Guess what, I was wrong, didn't sleep Monday night just laid in bed worrying about starting to use again everyday. Tuesday a.m I woke up and said no, no pills. I am back to only two days clean but I think it was a good reminder that it was not that fun taking pills. I vomited a few times when I was on the pills and was depressed and didn't care about anything other then when my next round would be taken. Please remind me that I cannot control the pills by going on two days then off, eventually I will be right back to everyday.

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    One saying I learned in these forums is "One pill is too many and a thousand pills is never enough". You quit before, you got this! Good luck... God bless us all!

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    Hey Guys,
    Just following up on this post from November of 2015. I unfortunately did not learn my lesson from the first time falling off and just got off a two month stretch where I started taking one or two just to remember the great feelings that got me hooked to begin with. I started with just a few percocets (10mg) and eventually was right back to 4 or 5 a day and then started having to keep the train rolling. I realized that it never felt as good as I thought and went cold turkey and have 7 days off. It is so hard when the pills are available to not give in. But they suck and before you know it your right back to counting pills, spacing them out to try to enjoy the high that is never there. I am committed to this being my final time off pills. Anyone else going through it stay strong and don't give in, its not worth it.
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    Yes
    It never gets better!
    Never
    Ever
    Once we are opiate addicts
    1 is too many and 1000 never enough!

    No truer words have been spoken..

    You can get clean.
    I got off methadone 3 years ago next month
    And off sub 2+ years.
    I could not do it without the sub..
    God knows I tried..

    Not to say you have to do it the same way
    But I will say
    The best decision I have ever made..

    Life is so much better!

    Try the ingredients on the
    Thomas Receipe minus the benzos.

    Lots of fluids
    Exercise if even just walking around your house..
    keep checking in
    There is so much support here!

    It really is priceless.
    Take care
    Bette
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredofbeingfaced View Post
    Hey Guys,
    Just following up on this post from November of 2015. I unfortunately did not learn my lesson from the first time falling off and just got off a two month stretch where I started taking one or two just to remember the great feelings that got me hooked to begin with. I started with just a few percocets (10mg) and eventually was right back to 4 or 5 a day and then started having to keep the train rolling. I realized that it never felt as good as I thought and went cold turkey and have 7 days off. It is so hard when the pills are available to not give in. But they suck and before you know it your right back to counting pills, spacing them out to try to enjoy the high that is never there. I am committed to this being my final time off pills. Anyone else going through it stay strong and don't give in, its not worth it.
    Never gets better pal! Ricky said it best, one pill is too many and a thousand pills is never enough! You got this. Read your thread, you've done it once before, twice before, you can do it once more. The key to success is to retrain your brain to stay away and not think of it, even if accessible, dispose of it! Goodluck, hope all works out for you! God Bless

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredofbeingfaced View Post
    Hey Guys,
    Just following up on this post from November of 2015. I unfortunately did not learn my lesson from the first time falling off and just got off a two month stretch where I started taking one or two just to remember the great feelings that got me hooked to begin with. I started with just a few percocets (10mg) and eventually was right back to 4 or 5 a day and then started having to keep the train rolling. I realized that it never felt as good as I thought and went cold turkey and have 7 days off. It is so hard when the pills are available to not give in. But they suck and before you know it your right back to counting pills, spacing them out to try to enjoy the high that is never there. I am committed to this being my final time off pills. Anyone else going through it stay strong and don't give in, its not worth it.
    Whatever your source is.... cut it out. Part of my ultimate strategy... I am expecting a move to a new city soon, and wouldn't even know where to start to find a new supplier. My current supplier in my current city I met through total random freak bad luck (unfortunate). Had I never met the guy.... I could easily say the habit would have never started. Aside from the world this guy introduced me to(which I since have closed myself off permanently from), I have never even remotely come close in my life to stepping into that world where someone would have access to this stuff to sell, wouldn't even know where to start to look.

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    Hey guys,
    Just wanted to provide an update, since May 2, 2017 I have been clean. The guy who I was working with that constantly supplied me finally decided to cut me off, and then quit (best thing that ever happened to me) I have been clean since and very rarely think about pills anymore. For those of you struggling with the decision please just do it, I promise the three really bad days are so worth it. Keep grinding I am so much better off now without the pills controlling my life.

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