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    Day 10 cold turkey methadone. Not feeling too bad. Used some xanax the help with really bad symptoms.
    My question is am I still feeling the methadone W/D or is it the Benzos now? The past 72 hours I have used .75mgs of the xanax.
    Today I haven't taken any
    I can't find any good information online anywhere somebody, anybody please help me.
    I was on 10-15mgs daily of methdone for 4 months. Am I still feeling it's W/D or is it the benzos, I don't see how such a small amount over a 2 week period could physically addict me. Psychologically I hate the feeling of xanax so I'm not worried about that
    So are these symptoms still pertaining to methadone w/d?
    The only symptoms that remain are chills, WAY better than day 9, profuse sweating at night, through all my sheets and blankets. Other than that I feel so good mentally. Even the 3-4 hours of sleep seems enough to get me through the day. This is the only helpful site. Please don't delete my thread this is my last hope and I'm seeking any information anyone can give me

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    My real question is how to differentiate between still going through Methadone W/D versus benzo W/D. The xanax has only been used for 2 weeks and I didn't take it every day either. During peak withdrawal I was taking 1-2mgs per day but since I'm on day 10 I have cut way back as symptoms don't seems as bad as the first 7 days. I have only used .75mgs of xanax in the past 72 hrs. I'm going to try melatonin tonight instead of xanax. Just looking for some time lines of Methadone w/D >> becoming physically dependent on xanax

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    Hey Jun

    It sounds like you're doing really really good. I know that doesn't sound accurate at all. But dude...you're dealing with one of the monsters of this world and you still have it by the >>>>> 10 days later.

    Let me reassure you that if you've come this far, you have more fortitude than many, many people, which translates to more than capable of finishing this beast off.

    I can tell you right now that if it were me, it would still be the methadone withdrawal symptoms I was feeling. But the xanax will certainly cause some rebound anxiety which for me would be felt in the withdrawals from methadone if that makes sense.
    It's been years and years since being on it but I can tell you, you are approaching the back end of this tunnel.

    The rebound from the benzos will certainly be felt even if it's been a short time on them. Xanax is like that. And opioid withdrawal will amplify anything you feel. So you will feel them. I would recommend seeing your doc to let him know you've been taking the benzos through this if you can, tell them how much, just to be safe and give you some peace of mind that you're in the clear and won't need any other meds to get you off of them. Chances are you won't, but they are the physicians not me.

    You're about to be entering the phase of waking up one morning feeling a little bit better. A little hungrier. Feeling a little bit more, laughing at something you have in years. It's about to be so good. please let us know how you're doing. We here to see you through this, because we have been through and this or ARE in it too.

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    Thank you so much for your reply!! Today is day 11 and I already woke up feeling much, much better. I did take another .25mgs of xanax last night due to the fact I have work and school and cannot operate on 2 hours of sleep right now. It's probably also worthy to mention I am on day 4 without any maryjane, I was a heavy heavy heavy smoker for years and I think that added to the methadone w/d more than the xanax. I don't use the xanax during the day, I don't suffer from anxiety or panic attacks and I only let myself take it once I've tried to fall asleep norally for 3-4 hours. Also I HATE benzos so not worried about the psychological addiction, just a physical one. From everything I read online tho .25mgs is a substantially small dose, as I've only taken 1mg total in the past 96hrs. Which everywhere says to wean off anyway. The real horror stories seem to come from people who are prescribed xanax from anxiety, or whatever else, and then once they d/c the panic attacks come back strong. Today I'm feeling much better, and tonight I won't take any xanax because I'm off tomorrow and the sleep doesn't matter as much!!!

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    Also, I woke up without the chills this morning!!!! What a relief. I guess I just didn't expect for the methadone W/D to take so sooo long, but that timeline seems right. I sweat through my sheets again, but that's more than likely due to the fact my body is dumping 3 substances at a time, all of which greatly help me sleep. I am not at all worried about dealing with a little extra anxiety. I am terrified of the seizures and convulsions and everything else that comes with benzos. But those seem to be extreme cases. I've seen some people on here say they take up to 12mgs a day!!! No kidding your brain is shutting down after that. God if I'd have known how nasty the Done was I would've never stopped. That's what I'm scared of a physical dependence. Even my best friend who used xanax recreationally said him and his friends did them for a solid month straight one summer and he was OK after they quit.

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    Afternoon of day 11 CT Methadone
    Finally some relief. I've actually been able to eat solid food, instead of protein shakes and supplements today! Hooray, gotta celebrate the small things. Reading back through my post before this I need to make a correction, when I said, "if I knew how nasty the Done was I would've never stopped" I meant to say never never would have started. I had 3 years clean from h and roxi. Both devils in the flesh, or powder lol. Getting my emotions back too I cried today, laughed, and spent some time in meditation and thought. According to Jimmy Valvano that's a full day lol. Great speech for those of you who haven't heard it. Anyway you guys can do this too!! I'll keep posting through out my detox. Still anymore input from everyone will greatly help!

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    Day 12 CT methadone, AM. Well it's 6:45 AM and I've given up on trying to sleep anymoreally today, I think I fell asleep at like 12am, so I got about 5-6 hours. My legs are killing me today, gunna take some advil and a hot shower here soon. How much longer do these w/do effects last?? The insomnia and RLS is killing me... any suggestions for that? Melatonin doesn't touch me, but I didn't take any xanax yesterday morning, afternoon, or night. Thanks for any help yall! Gunna keep pushing along

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    Juniper, i just posted about restless legs and what worked for me. It sounds silly, but putting a bar of Irish spring in the bed has been a miracle for me. What have you got to lose? For me, I can sleep thru pain, but when you are chasing your legs around, you aren't gonna rest.

    Dollar tree has it...2 for a dollar!

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    Lol I've seen that online before and I always thought it was just an old wives tale "but some Irish spring soap under your sheets, or ivory soap." I thought that was nonsense, maybe I'll grab a bar today. Where do you place the soap? Like under a corner of the sheets you don't sleep on top of it right?

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    I've put it everywhere in the bed, and each place seems to work! I normally put it by my pillow though, so I can smell it. I've come to associate that Irish clean smell with a good nights sleep lol! There are many wives tales that work like magic and are unexplained. My favorite is duct tape on a wart! That works! It shouldn't, but it does! And this will work for you! Otherwise, I wouldn't risk my anonymous reputation in this forum

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    Thank you for the help Goddess! I'm on day 12 without methadone and 36 hours without xanax to help facilitate the W/D symptoms. I woke up not feeling so great this morning, I'm not sure why. I have only used 1mg of xanax the past 5 days, .5mgs monday, .25mgs Tuesday, .25mgs Wednesday, nothing yesterday (thursday) and also nothing today. The xanax helps I'm just terrified of becoming physically dependent. Psychologically I hate xanz, not worried about that.

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    That's rough. And for most of us on the forum here, it's a well known journey. I'm currently tapering off tramadol and it's brutal every time I drop. I'm at the point where I need to see my baseline so I can see if the medicine treating my disease is working. (Lupus and RA).

    As messed up as it sounds, reading the trials and tribulations on here, always makes my own situation feel like a cake walk! I'm not unique...I'm just another member of this terrible club.

    Is your story posted here?! Would love to read you background. I haven't had the courage to sit down and write mine out...I'm not there yet. Soon though. Reading all the stories here empowers me every day and show me a glimmer of what my life can be again!

    Hopefully you are out buying soap at this moment

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    My story goes like this...
    Clean from H and Roxi for 3 years
    Moved states
    Back in school
    Pulled my GPA from a 0.6 (addict gpa lol) to a 3.4
    Stupid addict brain thought I could keep my addiction at bay, tried methadone. Looooooooved how long it lasted
    Never went more than 2-3 days without it and never felt sick (big mistake, takes longer to hit peak w/d)
    Used for 4 months heavy
    Caught myself just before my last finger slipped off the ledge back into hell
    Past 12 days 0 methadone, past 5 days 1mg xanax, past 5 days 0 pot (this honestly bugs me most, get drug tested for my job now randomly and had to quit CT)
    Today was hellish. I cried a few times. Idk where the depression came from I've been on boards all day trying to get help and advice about xanax w/d to make sure I'm NOT dependent. Honestly feel that the depression is from the lack of pot.
    I do not envy you at all Goddess, trams are nasty devils. Used to take those when I ran with H, 12-15 at a time. Those little turds hurt, but keep your head up. We can all get through this together. Take it from someone who went from a homeless addict to 3 years clean and a college degree, this can and will be done. Day at a time. Today I was clean that's all that counts!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juniper94 View Post
    My story goes like this...
    Clean from H and Roxi for 3 years
    Moved states
    Back in school
    Pulled my GPA from a 0.6 (addict gpa lol) to a 3.4
    Stupid addict brain thought I could keep my addiction at bay, tried methadone. Looooooooved how long it lasted
    Never went more than 2-3 days without it and never felt sick (big mistake, takes longer to hit peak w/d)
    Used for 4 months heavy
    Caught myself just before my last finger slipped off the ledge back into hell
    Past 12 days 0 methadone, past 5 days 1mg xanax, past 5 days 0 pot (this honestly bugs me most, get drug tested for my job now randomly and had to quit CT)
    Today was hellish. I cried a few times. Idk where the depression came from I've been on boards all day trying to get help and advice about xanax w/d to make sure I'm NOT dependent. Honestly feel that the depression is from the lack of pot.
    I do not envy you at all Goddess, trams are nasty devils. Used to take those when I ran with H, 12-15 at a time. Those little turds hurt, but keep your head up. We can all get through this together. Take it from someone who went from a homeless addict to 3 years clean and a college degree, this can and will be done. Day at a time. Today I was clean that's all that counts!!
    I read the other thread you started in the benzo forum, I'll respond here to keep all your information, posts and replies in one place. I read that you took 46mgs of xanax between August 8th - August 25th? That's alot of xanax in a short period of time! It is very possible to become dependent on xanax in as little as two weeks! It would not be uncommon for you to experience depression three days out from your last dose of xanax. The methadone and weed withdrawal can certainly add to the depression as well. It is dangerous to quit benzos cold turkey but since you haven't had a dose in 3-4 days and also the fact that your daily dosage has been pretty low for the past week or more I would recommend to just stay off the xanax now for good.

    As for the insomnia, that and energy are usually the lasts things that return to normal after quitting opiates. You can try some of the vitamins and supplements in the Thomas Recipe for Opiate Withdrawal, here's a link -
    https://www.drugs.com/forum/featured...ent-35169.html

    To help with the RLS you'll want to increase your potassium intake through food and supplements. Hyland's "Restful Legs" may help with the RLS, it can be found at Walmart and some drugstores? Cat has mentioned heating pads set on low and wrapped around your legs helps with the RLS as well.

    Drink lots of water, eat a protein and potassium rich diet and exercise whenever you can. It's gonna take time for you mind and body to heal so stay the course as things will improve as more clean time passes, I promise! I hope this info helps and that you feel better soon? Take care... God bless us all!

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    Always remember - One pill is too many and a thousand pills will never be enough!

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    Ricky, thank you so much. That's exactly the answers I was searching everywhere for but could not find, in the past 72 hours I haven't consumed anything except MAYBE .125mgs xanax, I say maybe because I think it was less, it was certainly at the most only 1/2 of .25mgs. Today is day day 13 no methadone and I got basically a full nights sleep last night, woke up twice but fell right back asleep. As far as the xanax dependence, the only time I've ever depended on it was during w/d from opiates. I'm a dumb ass for running again after 3 years clean. However there is 6mgs of xanax under my bathroom sink and there has been for the past week, as documented I haven't touched it. And I feel no physical symptoms of w/d according to what I've read about xanax. I had 0 idea methadone was so nasty, don't get me wrong H w/d is awful. But this stuff just SLOWLY leaves your body. Can't imagine someone whose been on it for years... anyway I'll continue to post through my recovery. No depression today, didn't even have to take advil. Appetite back for the most part, sleep back somewhat. I can Def say from the other side of day 13 that things are looking up

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    Hey mama-cita! Did you try the soap?! Glad you are turning a corner! What's your recovery plan?!

    I took my family to a additiction education festival and outed myself. It was right beside the playground we were at and they had hayrides, bouncy houses, tons of stuff for kids. It was the perfect place to really open up to my husband about my own journey and struggles. He doesn't see me as a junkie. I get a script from a specialist in my disease, so that gives me >>>>> Blanche to indulge...at least that's what my man thinks! Little by little, and I'm sure he will get it some day!

    Anyway, hoping all is well and you will get rest!!

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    Hi all,
    Day 14 without methadone, day 7 without pot, and 43 hours since I took .12mgs xanax, I was in a bad depression on Friday and took the smallest piece I could. I am cetrain these lingering effects, all of which are tolerable are due to the xanax. Ive only taken 1.12mgs the entire week so I'm hoping with each hour that passes I will start to feel better. I am going to push for 72hrs without the xanax, and from I understand most, if any, w/d symptoms occur during this time frame. Like I said I'm feeling relatively normal today! Not perfect, but not like a pile of >>>> either. Congrats Goddess. I'm sure that's a huge burden off your chest. I'll keep ya all posted!

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    You are rocking it lady! Isn't it funny how some things cause us a physical withdrawal and others not?! Like I could take a perc or Xanax for days and not have any issue what so ever! Give me a tram and I'm hooked in just a few days! Also, I could walk away from traditional opiates, and have been offered them like crazy from my doctors, but I'd rather have the Trams. For me, they transform the ordinary into the extroidinary. I jokingly call it dam-it-all. What time in your life were you sober and most happy? I am trying to focus on that. I've traveled and lived all over the world, and done it completely sober. I laughed, partied, had babies, went to movies, hung wth friend...and loved it. And did it Sober. That's what gets me thru this. Knowing that the best years of my life have been lived without any substance in my body. I know we will both experience joy and happiness someday. It's just going to take awhile for our Brains to get the message. To heal and start making that dopamine and Seratonin without help is a process thats completely in our grasp. I guess it will take time.

    What are you doing to stay busy and distract yourselves?

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    Exactly!! You never know what substance is gunna do it for you, especially the xanax for me. I never did see how people came to be addicted to them, but give me ANY and I mean ANY type of opiate and I'm off to the races lol. For me Benzos have always been a go to for opiate w/d. I know, i know. Dont trade 1 addiction for another, but psychologically i hate their effects, just hate opiate w/d more. I wish i had more information on methadone w/d before i supplemented xanax. What i thought was its just like every other opiate: 3-6 days of pure hell then you can begin to function. Boy was i wrong lol Honestly the hardest part of this for me is the pot, but I'm beginning to forget what it's like to be high and that's a blessing. I have plenty to look forward to, have an amazing relationship, I'm in a serious program at school, part of the reason I had to shake myself awake and realize I was about to flush 3 years of blood sweat and tears for pills again. These threads have kept me sane this past week. My run with methadone wasn't that long 4-5 months tops with days off in between. My 3 years of sobriety meant much more. I have come to realize that my brain is not wired for opiates. I'm an addict. Not just with drugs, in all aspects of my life. In some situations its a gift and in terms of substance abuse its a curse. Another day clean, sober, and I don't feel my emotions being ripped in 1 million directions. I have clarity today, so no matter what physical pain I may face, knowing I am strating to lose that fog upstairs keeps me going, and of course you guys inspire me as well!

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    Hi all,
    Day 15 no methadone, day 8 no pot, and 72 hours without xanax! Today has been rough so I'm guessing I did have a little dependence on the xanax. Nothing crazy just a little bit anxious which I can deal with. From everything that I have read the worst of the xanax hours is the first 72. So I'm hoping I wake up tomorrow without this feeling in my body!! No physical symptoms, just a little bit of rebound anxiety which is manageable, luckily we've had flooding in my part of Florida due to hurricane Harvey so school was cancelled for me today. A blessing from my higher power that I took as as sign to just suffer through today and feel better tomorrow

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    Hello Juniper, Keep up the good work..this too shall pass.. Stay Strong for Today..

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    Thanks for the kind words lvg, today has been especially rough im just trying to take it one hour at a time right now, knowing any substance I put into my body today will just prolong the symptoms I am experiencing. But man this whole process has been way tougher and way longer than I anticipated

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    Few hours past the 72 hour mark now, feeling 100% better than I did earlier. Very glad I didn't re-dose the xanax. Hoping tomorrow is my first day of complete clarity!! Hang in there hall we can do this together!!!

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    Hey Juniper, Stay Strong this will pass.. the acute withdrawals I went through I would tell myself it's like the flu x ten but it will pass..you really have to want this for yourself.. I cannot stress enough drink plenty of water....did I say drink plenty of water...don't watch the clock keep your mind busy...you can do this... Stay Strong for Today..

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    Hi all,
    Day 16 no methadone, day 9 no pot, and day 4 no xanax. Today has been by far the easiest day out of the past 16. It certainly feels like it's been 2 years but here we are! Basically all my symptoms have been alleviated, slight bout with anxiety from 12:40-2:00 today but nothing Deep Blue Rub couldnt fix (stuff is life saving). Appetite is back up to around 90%, sleep comes relatively easy at night and I'm only waking up 1-2x per night now, but I am able to adjust my pillows, or get a glass of water, and fall right back asleep. I have been drinking 2-3 liters of water/day, since day 1 of this process Lvg. I don't drink soda or alcohol as it is, and I've stayed away from the gatorade for the most part as well (sodium content is too high, trying to flush liquid, not retain it). Finally feel like I'm on the other side of this dark tunnel. That light at the end seems much brighter now!!! This forum is the ONLY thing that has keep me sane this week, I've said it multiple times. That and a willingness to gain back control of my life, because when you take a step back and really think about letting a chemical compound control your life, you feel pretty darn small. At least I did, especially after having 3 years of sobriety. Another day clean and sober. Anyone fighting this fight I highly recommend you create an account on here. Together we can all beat this!!!
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    Arg! My post was deleted! Was just saying how awesome it was to log on and read your update. I've been struggling today. I know it's my body healing and remapping those neural pathways, but I've been down none the less! How easy it would be with I just took one extra of those little nasty pills...but I won't. I'm gonna conquer this. You inspire me lady!

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    Hello Juniper, stay strong this to shall pass. Yes me to everyone on this forum has helped me to get where I'm at Today..it's possible...Proud if You... Stay Strong for Today...

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    Hi all,
    Day 17 no methadone, day 10 no pot, and day 5 no xanax. I really thought all symptoms would be gone by this point but I still have that anoxious feeling in my bones. My appetite is basically all back and my sleep is decent as well but I feel very amped up like I cannot calm down. I exercised and did some meditation today and that seemed to help but ughhhhhh I just want to be a normal member of society again!!!!! Regardless I know these symptoms wI'll continue to fade as the days fly by but right now it's hard to think about anything but the moment. Stay strong goddess, your body might feel better if you re-dose but it will weigh heavy on your conscious. We can all get through this one day at a time!!! Another day clean and sober
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    Hey Juniper, keep your brain and body active, excersise,walk,read watch TV keep moving forward and onwards....this too shall pass..your doing amazing... Stay Strong for Today

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    Idk why my comments aren't posting but day 17 no Done, day 10 no Jane, and day 5 no xanz, physically I am still hurting but mentally I am feeling great. I had no idea I would still be feeling physically off at this point but I just take it as part of the process. I was finally able to exercise and mediate today and it felt great. I'm currently at work at the moment however just staring at the clock. My lunch was not big enough, thata my big complaint today lol. And the anxious feeling in my bones and muscles can frig off lol.
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