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    Hello, everyone! I've been using Suboxone for ten years and one month (more on that below). Now, after tapering down to .13mg (approximately 1/16th of a 2mg pill), I am ready to make the jump after Christmas. The tapering process has been planned, responsible, and honest. We agreed that my medication/taper schedule would be managed by my wife (she is not an addict). She has held me accountable over the past few months, and I'm so fortunate to have her. Suboxone has been a blessing and a curse in my life. Without it, I wouldn't have been able to quit my 20+ Percocet per day habit (more on that below).

    So...where do I begin? I'm 33 years old (male, live in Oregon), and I first got my hands on prescription opiates when I was 16 years old. I had my wisdom teeth pulled out, and they gave me Vicodin during recovery...and whoa boy I loved how those made me feel. After that, I would steal them from the medicine cabinet at home and at friends houses, and then it got to the point where I was buying them from "friends". This relatively innocent process went on until I was 18 years old, but it planted a deep seed.

    Somewhere around that time, senior year of high school, I cleaned up my act a little bit. I joined the Air Force right after graduation, went to Basic Training, went to technical school, and then I was stationed at Fairchild AFB in Spokane, WA. I was almost immediately deployed (in early 2003) to support a bomber operation stationed in the Indian Ocean. During that tour, we worked 18 hour days for the first couple of weeks, and then slowed down to 12 hour days after we got things set up and running smoothly. It turns out that all of that hard work did a number on my back, leading to bulging discs, arthrytis (weird) and DDD.

    After returning from my first deployment in late 2003, I started going off base in search of prescription opiates. I found tons of "success" in doctor shopping and basically pulling wool over everyone's eyes. When I couldn't find pills, I would abuse alcohol. After a vacation down to Mexico, I got super-hooked on Tramadol, which seems weird now, but it happened. I actually went down to Tijuana and bought a case of that stuff for like $200. This process went on for a while. Pills, alcohol, pills, alcohol...sprinkle in some cocaine, shrooms, rinse, repeat.

    Fast-forward to 2005, after my second deployment, I returned and my back pain was not doing well so I saw a surgeon on the base. He told me that I needed surgery, and that he would send me off-base to a specialist. The specialist ended up doing an ALIF (anterior lumbar interbody fusion). After that, I had a constant >>>>>> of Vicodin, Percocet, Morphine, and more coming into my system. In mid-2006, I decided not to re-enlist so I received my honorable discharge. I literally will never forget that last time that I left the pharmacy on the Air Force base. I was getting a refill for 120 Morphine TR and some Percocet, and the pharmacist said, "I know that your doctor is giving you this prescription, but son you need help." I nodded and went on my way, and I'm ashamed that I didn't listen.

    Mid 2006, I hopped on my motorcycle and moved back to my hometown. Just being honorably discharged, I didn't have any problem finding a decent job at a local company. Eventually the morphine ran out, and so I started abusing the VA medical/RX system. At this point in time, November of 2006, I had just met my wife (girlfriend at the time) and we moved in together. Once the VA noticed all of my tricks, I started doctor shopping around my hometown and the other cities in the area. Eventually, my shenanigans caused me to get flagged in the RX system. This was around late 2007. Honestly the flagging saved my life. At the time, my shopping was allowing me to consume at least 20+ Percocet each day. Can't believe I'm still alive.

    In early 2008, I went to a pain doctor and he was a godsend. He started testing my urine to see where I was at, and then he put me on the Suboxone (actually I think it started with Subutex). During the first few months, my inner addict was telling me that Suboxone was not helping me...but I persevered through. In August of 2008, my wife and I got married. Around that time, I was taking 16mg to 24mg a day. Eventually I settled on 16mg, and this went on for a few years.

    In 2010, my son was born. I was (and continue to be) functioning as a responsible adult and participating member of society. I was still working at the same place and I decided that I needed to get some better pay. So I used the GI Bill to gain my Bachelor's degree. I already had some credits from college during the Air Force. So in 2013, I graduated college and got that degree. Almost simultaneously, I landed a great new job working in the public sector here in Oregon. I still work for the same public organization, as I'm typing on this publicly-owned computer.

    Over the past year or two, I've worked my way down to 2mg a day. And now, over the past couple of months, I've worked down to .13mg a day. It hasn't been easy, and I'm ready for this new chapter to begin. As I sit here and reflect on how all of this started to begin with, it makes me feel thankful to be alive. But it's hard for me to think about...because the good is mixed in with the bad.

    I'm ready to start the process of living a better quality of life? Will you help me?
    -10 years
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    I should also note, that since 2010 while taking Suboxone, I haven't drank any alcohol...at all...

    Between 2007 and 2010 I never really had a problem with alcohol, but I watched my dad die of liver cirrhosis so I decided to completely eliminate it from my life. I'm really happy with my progress on that note.
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    There he is!! Welcome again buddy!! Quite a story there. Keep doing what you're doing!! So glad you're here. Congratulations on taking your life back! It only gets better

    Beef
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    Hello again, 10 Years. I posted to you over on Beef's thread and I'm glad to see you now have your own thread going. You'll receive many replies if you continue posting updates, which I'm sure you will.

    I want to give you the link to my thread. It's a very long thread, but is full of advice, suggestions, and lots of support from the members when I needed it the most. I was in a similar situation as you are now. I was down to .25mg of Suboxone and afraid to make the final jump. Turns out I was fearful of losing the one crutch (drugs) I had held onto for years and years. Once I got over that part and made my mind up that I was done it was easy to continue with my plan. I did reduce once more down to .125mg before jumping. Here's the link to my thread below if you have some spare time and would like to take a peek...https://www.drugs.com/forum/need-tal...ump-65786.html

    You are going to do awesome I have no doubts. The day skipping process that I mentioned to you earlier will help tremendously with your final jump. Also please give some thought to those NA/AA meetings that Lvg and I mentioned to you. Scary to go the first time, but will make a world of difference to long term sobriety.

    Nice to have you with us!

    Randy

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    Hi Randy,

    I read through 90% of your thread and I find myself encouraged but still worried. I’m mostly concerned about prolonging the jump, as would be required by skipping days.

    I haven’t shared this idea with my wife, but I’m thinking about holding off on tomorrow’s dose until it’s absolutely unbearable.

    When I woke up this morning, and realized that it wasn’t as bad as the night before, I had a small boost of encouragement that it might be possible to go one real day without the beast, as you put it ;-)

    I’m curious, now that it’s been a few years...how are things with your family?

    Sincerely...and thank you,
    - 10years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefaroni7272 View Post
    There he is!! Welcome again buddy!! Quite a story there. Keep doing what you're doing!! So glad you're here. Congratulations on taking your life back! It only gets better

    Beef
    Hey Beef!

    Thanks for your reply and I will be keeping you all posted! I’ll be looking for inspiration in the days and weeks ahead, and hope to one day pay it forward.

    Take care,
    - 10years

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    I'm going to try to do a morning and an evening post update. That's a healthy goal, I feel. Here's my update for today:

    I magically fell asleep after 10:00pn last night, and stayed asleep until 3:40am. I woke up due to RLS and the stretchies. At 4am, I took the dog out, stood in the rain for a bit and then came back in. I found my way to the couch and fought to fall back asleep. Took a clonidine, and probably fell asleep after an hour. After taking my .13mg dose at around 7am, I proceeded to shower to get ready. I couldn't believe how slow and groggy I felt. I suppose it could have been the clonidine. But even before I took my Sub dose, I realized that today would be better than yesterday. I knew it, and I guess I was sort of right.

    Driving to work, I was a bit worried because I felt similar to being drunk. My eyes definitely weren't focusing properly, and my mouth felt very strange due to cotton mouth (another very strange symptom that I wasn't expecting). It actually felt like I was talking with a ball of cotton stuffed in my cheeks. I didn't have many other symptoms until around 9am when I got to my desk. Got to my desk, at a good breakfast consisting of good quality granola, slivered almonds, and Greek yogurt.

    The remaining work day consisted of manageable muscular pain in my back, hips and neck. I've had the chills more often than not. I haven't been sweating, which is a good improvement from yesterday. I felt like I'd lost a lot of fluid via sweating yesterday. Speaking of fluids, right after lunch my bowels had an urgent situation that needed to be addressed. I am taking imodium but tomorrow, or tonight, I will be blessed with the liquid variety of Imodium. So. excited.

    All in all, today hasn't been terrible. I'll be heading home here shortly, and that's when the real fun begins. My son is 7 and he doesn't understand why I am going to just fall on the couch under a blanket. Just a week ago, I'd be getting home and playing with him.

    Hoping for strength through the night and into the morning.

    Thank you all,
    - 10years
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    Everything is normal while your body adjusts to the lower dose. Think of it as manageable discomfort now to make for a softer landing when you jump. Imodium saved me. When the hot snakes started it take a swig and that one sip would last me for 2-3 days until it started again. Chills..... ugh, not fun but it's normal. You got this and you got the right mindset! Keep doing what you're doing!!! It only gets better!!

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    I woke up this morning feeling strong...almost deceptively strong! Last night wasn't easy, I started to feel tired around 9:30pm so I made my way to bed (after taking Ibuprofen, Clonidine, Vitamins and Hyland's Restful Legs). It took around 90 minutes to fall asleep. Then, I managed to wake up around 1:30pm with really bad RLS and dripping sweat. It's so unnerving to wake up in that state...it just completely throws your body into full blown anxiety mode. I sat on the edge of the bed for a few minutes to calm my nerves, laid back down...and nope that wasn't happening.

    So now it's around 2am, so I walked out to the living room and paced around a bit. I think at this point I was hyper focused and worried about how I would feel come 7am (.13mg dose time). I think I took some more Ibuprofen and Hyland's Restful Legs, but I wasn't exactly lucid at the time. I laid down on the couch (this will be my third night making it out to the couch), and slowly started the process of calming and try to fall asleep. I was in and out of it, tossing and turning for a while.

    Well, some amount of sleep happened because my wife came out to wake me at 6:30am. She asked if I wanted to sleep more and I said no. I stood up and I felt good enough to start the process of getting organized for work and hopping in the shower. I was slow, but it wasn't terrible.

    Get out of the shower, kiss my family goodbye...and I walked out the door without my dose. It's 9am right now, and my last dose was yesterday at 7am.

    I have zero expectations for how today will go, but I'm keeping a positive attitude. My wife has all of my doses, so I took a big leap walking out of the house without my dose. I'll post later today, wish me luck :-)
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    It's now almost noon, and it's been 29 hours since my last dose. I will be absolutely thrilled if I'm able to make it a full 48 hours without taking any Suboxone. The past few hours have been up and down, left and right. Pain, heart racing, sweat, and not to mention the chills. That's the worst part for me right now. Fatigue is manageable, focus is barely there but manageable. Pushing forward. I have a meeting at 1:30pm so I'm hoping that puts some pep in my step. I'll do another post tonight.
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    Good Job.. keep it up.. proud of you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvg nghtmare View Post
    Good Job.. keep it up.. proud of you..
    Thanks, Lvg, your support is much appreciated! Wishing you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy35 View Post
    Hello again, 10 Years. I posted to you over on Beef's thread and I'm glad to see you now have your own thread going. You'll receive many replies if you continue posting updates, which I'm sure you will.

    I want to give you the link to my thread. It's a very long thread, but is full of advice, suggestions, and lots of support from the members when I needed it the most. I was in a similar situation as you are now. I was down to .25mg of Suboxone and afraid to make the final jump. Turns out I was fearful of losing the one crutch (drugs) I had held onto for years and years. Once I got over that part and made my mind up that I was done it was easy to continue with my plan. I did reduce once more down to .125mg before jumping. Here's the link to my thread below if you have some spare time and would like to take a peek...https://www.drugs.com/forum/need-tal...ump-65786.html

    You are going to do awesome I have no doubts. The day skipping process that I mentioned to you earlier will help tremendously with your final jump. Also please give some thought to those NA/AA meetings that Lvg and I mentioned to you. Scary to go the first time, but will make a world of difference to long term sobriety.

    Nice to have you with us!

    Randy
    Hey Randy! I read through your thread...absolutely amazing. I skipped my dose today, and I can’t honestly say whether or not I’m going to take it tomorrow. One day at a time. Thank you.

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    The last 4 - 5 hours haven't been easy. Literally feels like I'm taking it a minute at a time. I went to Costco on my lunch break, on my own, and that went well. Other than that still fighting these chills. Does anyone know why RLS is so prominent at night (versus daytime)? I can barely feel it during the day.

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    Hey buddy. Just stay with it. Everyone is different and we all react differently. For me it was chills, depression, fatigue, and of course the dreaded rls/sleep issues. No idea why the res shows up when it does but as soon as I laid down to try and sleep it was like my dam legs wanted to run a marathon. I tried zinc/magnesium and took a long hot shower right before bed and it helped. I know others have talked about hylands restful legs. Also a strong cup of sleepy time tea right before bed time helped me out. It sux, no way around it but you're where you need to be and doing great!!! Keep doing what you're doing! So proud of you!! Take it one at a time, (day, hour, minute whatever you need) you got this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefaroni7272 View Post
    Hey buddy. Just stay with it. Everyone is different and we all react differently. For me it was chills, depression, fatigue, and of course the dreaded rls/sleep issues. No idea why the res shows up when it does but as soon as I laid down to try and sleep it was like my dam legs wanted to run a marathon. I tried zinc/magnesium and took a long hot shower right before bed and it helped. I know others have talked about hylands restful legs. Also a strong cup of sleepy time tea right before bed time helped me out. It sux, no way around it but you're where you need to be and doing great!!! Keep doing what you're doing! So proud of you!! Take it one at a time, (day, hour, minute whatever you need) you got this!

    Beef
    Thanks, Beef! Last night was probably the worst yet. I'll take your advice tonight and shower right beforehand. Maybe even a bath with some of my wife's fancy salts. Good news, though...I didn't take my dose this morning so technically I'm on Day 1 clean (last dose was 49.5 hours ago...not like I'm counting). Cravings are just barely there, so that's a good sign. My back feels completely thrashed. But it's gonna be a good day.
    - 10 years
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    Congratulations on day 1!! Count as much as you need to. Days, hours minutes. Whatever you want. I counted days religiously until about 2 months. I know my anniversary is on the 16th of every month, but I couldn't tell you what day I'm on. Still not sure if that makes me a badaddict or not? Lol. Keep doing what you're doing my friend. Great job!! It only gets better from here!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10years39days View Post
    The last 4 - 5 hours haven't been easy. Literally feels like I'm taking it a minute at a time. I went to Costco on my lunch break, on my own, and that went well. Other than that still fighting these chills. Does anyone know why RLS is so prominent at night (versus daytime)? I can barely feel it during the day.

    Hey 10 Yrs!

    RLS is more frequent during the nighttime because we're in a rested state. You're usually in bed and trying to get to sleep and have been still for a period of time.. During the day you're usually moving around much more. Not sure theres any scientific data about this because I've researched it quite a bit and haven't found any reliable conclusions. The search continues.

    Theres OTC supplements such as Hylands Restful Legs that some say really help. Some say it doesn't make much difererence. For me personally when I had some episodes of RLS I "tired" my legs out as much as I possibly could. I ran on my treadmill or jogged outdoors until my legs were extremely tired out. That actually seemed to help in my case. Worth a try.

    Congratulations on Day 1 clean. I just counted the following day clean after my last dose of sub. You don't necessarily need to count the exact hours unless you choose to do so. Just call today clean day #1 and tomorrow day 2. Either way....Congrats!!!

    Randy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy35 View Post
    Hey 10 Yrs!

    RLS is more frequent during the nighttime because we're in a rested state. You're usually in bed and trying to get to sleep and have been still for a period of time.. During the day you're usually moving around much more. Not sure theres any scientific data about this because I've researched it quite a bit and haven't found any reliable conclusions. The search continues.

    Theres OTC supplements such as Hylands Restful Legs that some say really help. Some say it doesn't make much difererence. For me personally when I had some episodes of RLS I "tired" my legs out as much as I possibly could. I ran on my treadmill or jogged outdoors until my legs were extremely tired out. That actually seemed to help in my case. Worth a try.

    Congratulations on Day 1 clean. I just counted the following day clean after my last dose of sub. You don't necessarily need to count the exact hours unless you choose to do so. Just call today clean day #1 and tomorrow day 2. Either way....Congrats!!!

    Randy

    Thanks, Randy! I appreciate your support! Day 1 is going good, and I'm looking forward to day 2. Starting tomorrow, I will be off work for at least 4 days. The only foreseeable complication is that I'll be travelling for the Christmas holiday weekend. I'm hoping all of the "activity" will be a good thing, but I suppose it could mean the opposite. Because nothing is worse than having withdrawals in an uncomfortable guest bedroom with a mattress.

    All in all, things are going well. I'm proud to be where I'm at, and looking forward to shaking these chills.
    - 10years
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    Hey guys,

    I'm actually starting my first day as well. My last dose of subutex was last night, but it was way less than normal. I'm actually making the jump from 1.5mg, but I have a 12 day break from work and said screw it, I'm DONE. I'm ready for this. I've jumped from 2mg cold turkey and I started feeling good at around 3 weeks. This time I've been prescribed Gabapentin, Vistaril, Clonodine & a 5 day supply of Valium. I'd love to stay in touch, share my experience and help in anyway I can. I find support can be the biggest piece in recovery.

    Quick bio - Started OC, got up to 300mg per day for 2 years and have been off and on suboxone/subutex for the last 8 with 1 & 1.5 years clean inbetween. I'm now clearly aware of why I relapsed and I'm confident this is a permanent fix for me.

    I wish everyone the best and happy holidays!!
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    Hi 10yrs! I thought my own withdrawals would be easy. Several days later I wished it would just end! It got pretty miserable and it felt like forever. It did eventually pass through, and I got some meds to help me through it. Imodium was a huge help. Clonidine. Vistaril. Lyrica. Prazosin. They all helped, but breakthrough withdrawals still surfaced. Benzos didn’t help much for me. Insomnia was the longest acting effect of withdrawal, and made me angry. I don’t do anger well, and was snappy with everyone. It took about a month to rediscover sleep at a minimal level, but it returned. It does get better! I hope you’re managing ok, and happy holidays!
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    Hey 10 years just wanted to stop by and poke my head through the window and see how things are going for you today? Give us an update whenever you can! Hope you have a great day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastTyme4Real View Post
    Hey guys,

    I'm actually starting my first day as well. My last dose of subutex was last night, but it was way less than normal. I'm actually making the jump from 1.5mg, but I have a 12 day break from work and said screw it, I'm DONE. I'm ready for this. I've jumped from 2mg cold turkey and I started feeling good at around 3 weeks. This time I've been prescribed Gabapentin, Vistaril, Clonodine & a 5 day supply of Valium. I'd love to stay in touch, share my experience and help in anyway I can. I find support can be the biggest piece in recovery.

    Quick bio - Started OC, got up to 300mg per day for 2 years and have been off and on suboxone/subutex for the last 8 with 1 & 1.5 years clean inbetween. I'm now clearly aware of why I relapsed and I'm confident this is a permanent fix for me.

    I wish everyone the best and happy holidays!!
    Hey lasttyme4real. Welcome to the forum. Congratulations on day 1. Huge first step as you know. This is a great place with amazing people who will help and motivate you. Why don't you start your own thread so members can track your progress and leave suggestions and inspiration in one place. Give everyone a little info and im sure the cavalry will be by to welcome you!

    Congratulations and welcome again
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    Sorry guys yesterday was a holiday travel day. Driving during day 2 was a massive pain, literally. Day 3, surprisingly, is going well. I’ve stopped taking Clonidine, and replaced it with Ondansetron...a nausea medicine...and it’s an absolute miracle for the withdrawal symptoms. My wife found a case study from Stanford University that verifies at least some truth to its efficacy.

    But to be honest, the biggest contributor thus far to making me feel like this is actually possible is taking the amino acids. Something special about those.

    Day 3 is going good guys. I don’t know if it’s a product of my long, slow taper or if it’s the ondansetron/amino acid combination. But either way, looking forward to tomorrow. Merry Christmas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastTyme4Real View Post
    Hey guys,

    I'm actually starting my first day as well. My last dose of subutex was last night, but it was way less than normal. I'm actually making the jump from 1.5mg, but I have a 12 day break from work and said screw it, I'm DONE. I'm ready for this. I've jumped from 2mg cold turkey and I started feeling good at around 3 weeks. This time I've been prescribed Gabapentin, Vistaril, Clonodine & a 5 day supply of Valium. I'd love to stay in touch, share my experience and help in anyway I can. I find support can be the biggest piece in recovery.

    Quick bio - Started OC, got up to 300mg per day for 2 years and have been off and on suboxone/subutex for the last 8 with 1 & 1.5 years clean inbetween. I'm now clearly aware of why I relapsed and I'm confident this is a permanent fix for me.

    I wish everyone the best and happy holidays!!
    Congrats LastTyme! Hey you really should give Ondansetron a try. It’s been pretty amazing for me this far. I also jumped at a much lower dose, so we may not yield the same results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefaroni7272 View Post
    Hey 10 years just wanted to stop by and poke my head through the window and see how things are going for you today? Give us an update whenever you can! Hope you have a great day!

    Beef
    Hey Beef, thanks for checking in!! Day 3!!! Can you believe it? I’m feeling pretty darn good today. The Ondansetron and Amino Acids have been my best friends for the last 24ish hours. The Ondansetron (8mg) makes RLS all but disappear, and it puts a massive dent in the chills. Apparently it has zero addictive qualities, and the doctors routinely give it to pregnant women. The amino acids are making me smile a little more, and I’m pretty sure that I’ll be taking them for the rest of my life. Lots more to learn about health and wellness over the coming months. I’ve been abusing my body for so long. The buck stops here.
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    Great update!!! Glad you're feeling better. Just take it a day at a time!! Keep doing the next right thing. It only gets better!

    Proud of you!
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    Whew - last night was a little step backward. Pretty intense anxiety and insomnia made it pretty hard to sleep. Probably got 3 good hours. One contributor is that I forgot my Melatonin at home before traveling away. I’ve corrected the mistake and I’ll see how things go with a dose of Melatonin tonight.

    Beef - I can’t describe how much of a lifesaver the liquid Imodium has been for me. Thanks again for that pro-tip!

    Still fighting chills, but overall things are looking up. Day 4, yeah!

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    Just a quick Xmas update - Day 5 is in the books and it was a little better than yesterday. Liquid Imodium is saving my life, or at least it feels that way. How long do you think I’ll need to be swigging this stuff?

    RLS has been strong today. I spent most of the day driving, and my lower body feels like it wants to do a marathon. Just sitting here on the couch is triggering RLS. I think a salt bath is in order.

    My main gripe, though, is my mood. I swear it varies by the minute. At least I’m able to say that cumulatively things are getting better. I already feel like I’ve accomplished something that previously felt impossible. It’s a good feeling.
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    Hey bud. Glad things are going well ish for you. Everything you're feeling is normal. It's just your body reacting to not having the garbage after years of build up. It's gonna take some time to dissipate. Like lvg says, we didn't get here in a day, so it's gonna take some time. Yeah, I feel you on the rls. Try Hylands resentful legs, and hot baths showers we're my best friends. General mood; keep taking amino acids they definitely help get your brain back to normalish.

    You're doing amazing buddy!! Keep it rolling. This will be behind you soon. Keep posting and know it's all part of the process.

    Have a great day my friend!!
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