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    Hi everyone,

    I began tapering the subs a lil while ago. I was on 8mg for a little over a year. ( I never took the whole 8mg film. I was taking about 6mg)
    Right now I'm down to 1.5mg. I picked up my last prescription today. My doctor told me to take 1mg for 2 weeks. I'm kinda nervous about getting down to zero. The symptoms I'm having are sweats, a bit of depression, and some sleep issues.
    The doctor also gave me Clonodine (.01 2x a day)The Clonodine makes me a bit tired. I read the thread about tapering as well.
    Any advice is appreciated.
    I also want to thank everyone(especially Randy) for helping me out when I started this whole process.

    Zach
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    Hey Randy and everyone,

    Do the supplements(and everything in the Thomas recipe - the benzo's) really help when stopping the subs?
    Should I take the supplements while still on the subs? Or wait until I'm down to zero? Today is my second day taking 1.5mg

    Thanks,

    Zach

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    The supplements are fine anytime. They're just healthy for your. Stay away from the benzos!!

    Peace,

    Cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catrina View Post
    The supplements are fine anytime. They're just healthy for your. Stay away from the benzos!!

    Peace,

    Cat
    Thanks Cat,

    I've never taken benzo's and don't ever plan on taking it.
    I just want to get through with taking the subs. I'm actually kinda dredding getting down to zero. I don't think it will be nearly as bad as when I went through PWD but I know it's still gonna suck.

    Zach

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    Zach
    You will do fine if you drop 25%
    Only when you Are good and stable..
    Usually 4-5 days ..
    I jumped a little over 16 months ago and did fine..

    You are already down low so it won't be too hard..
    I started the supplants on the recipe long before I jumped..
    They are good for you anyway and still take most of them..


    Randy and I both are MIA sometimes..
    Cat is here a lot..
    But I hVe been back for the last few weeks..

    Randy is doing great!

    Over 2 years clean but had a huge family loss

    So I am sure he will be happy to help when he comes back..
    Take care
    Bette

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    Sorry to hear about Randy's loss. I hope he's doing well.
    Thanks Bette for your support

    Zack

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    Ever since I started subs, Ive been cutting them in to small pieces and have been taking them throughout the day. Instead of taking it once in the morning.
    I know I shouldn't have done that but it became a habit.
    Is it gonna be harder on me when I get down to zero? Tomorrow I start taking 1mg.

    Thanks,
    Zach

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    Yes definitely have to stop doing thT..
    As you know that is addict behavior..
    Especially now because you are getting to 1 mg.
    since you already know it is an issue..
    Instead of going to 1 mg and only dosing 1 time a day..
    I would try
    .5 mg in the am
    .5 mg 8-10 hours later..
    Get stable on that
    Get used to 2 times a day.. Instead of many..
    Progression not perfection..
    There is nothing in stone that says it has to be 1 time a day now..

    It is best .
    But you know you have been getting into a bad habit . That is the first step in changing..

    You will be ok..
    But you have to start sometime..
    Might as well be now!
    Take care
    Bette
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    Thanks Bette. I did manage to split my dose to 3x today. Tomorrow I'm gonna do 2x. Today is my 1st day on 1mg. My feet have been really cold(mind you its over a 100 degrees out here today) I've been trying to stay cool in my apt.


    Zack

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    When I make the jump, what items(ex. Supplements) should I have at home that will help?


    Thanks,
    Zack

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    Well today I was suppose to do 1mg but I took 1.25 mg and I'm not happy with myself for that. I just wasn't feeling well. I really felt it when I dropped from 1.5 mg to 1mg.

    Hope everyone is well

    Zack

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    I'm not doing too well. I'm still at 1mg( I take .50mg in the morning then 8 hours later I take the other .50mg)
    I haven't been able to sleep(among other things) I have a job interview tomorrow. I don't how I'm ever gonna get through this but I have no choice. I have 6 2mg film. This is my last prescription.

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    You will stabilize
    How many days did you stay at 1.25 mg ?
    Now 1 mg right?
    If you go back in forth it will be harder to stabilize.

    I realize you have a limited amt..
    If you stay at 1 mg you will stabilize..
    For me I think it is better to take it one time a day at that low dose
    Because your body gets the most out of the 1 mg by getting it a
    At one time..

    Just take it with your supplements and then forget it ..

    You are almost there..

    I think you will be better off staying busy..
    I have to work today but will check back later
    Bette

    You should start the supplements now..
    It takes awhile. To get them into your system..
    Check out the Thomas Recipe .minus the benzo..
    I still take them..
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    I'm ok somewhat during the day. But by the end of the of the day. I feel anxious, hot/cold, tired but can't sleep.
    My job interview went well but I don't see how I am going to handle working out in public
    I have a part time job working from home on my computer.
    I'm still at 1.25mg
    I will pick up the supplements tomorrow. I didn't have time today
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    I really want to win this. The lack of sleep and feeling tired is driving me nuts. Along with everything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekky View Post
    I really want to win this. The lack of sleep and feeling tired is driving me nuts. Along with everything else
    Yo Zach! What's up buddy remember me? Going crazy last week with my induction. I'm doing well now thanks to your help.

    I'm starting my first reduction tomorrow and I am also nervous to start dropping but you/we have to do this! There has been so many before us that have gotten through it. Especially with it being your last prescription you gotta get it done ya know.. Or else it will be worse.

    You can do it man! I have faith in you.. Gotta get out of your head! I know how that can be. Push through. Bette and cat have helped me so much and totally trust them and they say we will be fine. They went through it and they know.

    Push through you can do it you're almost there! I can't wait to be where you are.

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    I feel like I'm going nuts. I'm depressed, anxious,running nose, hot and cold
    I didn't start feeling bad until I got to 1mg. Before that I was ok

    Ugh

    Thanks for the support maninmirror

    Zack
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    Yup that's how I felt before I stabilized. From what I've been told that is going to happen.. But if you push through you will stabilize they say. Just think of this... You have got to do it and you can!

    Gotta get out of your head I know that's incredibly hard but I'm sure that will head. Push through one or two days and supposedly you'll stabilize. It's going to feel great when you're down and have pushed through.

    I know I haven't witnessed it yet but I'm already trying to prepare.

    Actually, what are the recommended supplements? I already take vitamins so I may be taking them already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maninmirror View Post
    Yup that's how I felt before I stabilized. From what I've been told that is going to happen.. But if you push through you will stabilize they say. Just think of this... You have got to do it and you can!

    Gotta get out of your head I know that's incredibly hard but I'm sure that will head. Push through one or two days and supposedly you'll stabilize. It's going to feel great when you're down and have pushed through.

    I know I haven't witnessed it yet but I'm already trying to prepare.

    Actually, what are the recommended supplements? I already take vitamins so I may be taking them already.
    Thanks. I'm trying. It just sucks really bad. If I'm on 1mg right now and I feel like >>>>, what's the point of even take the subs anymore?
    The supplements are under the Thomas recipe without the benzo's

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    Today is my second day on 1mg. Today I took it just once in the morning. I still feel horrible ugh

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    Do you guys still think I should taper now more then 1mg, even though I feel miserable?? Or should I just stop the subs completely? Because I think I'm just delaying the inevitable.

    Thanks

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    If you feel that bad
    You can just jump.
    Sone people do..
    1 mg is still a big dose..
    But jumping at this time because you want too not because you
    Have to and you are out of subs
    Might just be the little ugh you need..
    It will make you feel good to know u made the decision..
    Yourself..

    When do you start your new job?
    How many days have you been on 1 mg?

    Really get on the supplements.
    I used the withdrawal ease when I was tapering methadone and it really helped..
    They give you a day pill
    And a night pill..
    It have all the supplements in 2 pills..
    It is about $50-$60
    But it cones with a money back guarantee..

    Check out their website..
    I will check back
    Bette


    Bye
    I got a cold when I jumped or right before
    So did a few others..

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    I would say get to as low of a dose that you can and then jump. I'm getting nervous about getting that now.. Haha. I hope mine goes smoothly. Did my first reduction today and I think I feel it a little bit at the moment it's not too bad.. Sorry you are going through it though man.. I'm sure you'll get through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluv2smile View Post
    If you feel that bad
    You can just jump.
    Sone people do..
    1 mg is still a big dose..
    But jumping at this time because you want too not because you
    Have to and you are out of subs
    Might just be the little ugh you need..
    It will make you feel good to know u made the decision..
    Yourself..

    When do you start your new job?
    How many days have you been on 1 mg?

    Really get on the supplements.
    I used the withdrawal ease when I was tapering methadone and it really helped..
    They give you a day pill
    And a night pill..
    It have all the supplements in 2 pills..
    It is about $50-$60
    But it cones with a money back guarantee..

    Check out their website..
    I will check back
    Bette


    Bye
    I got a cold when I jumped or right before
    So did a few others..

    I just ordered the WD eaze. I made a list off of the Thomas recipe. I am going to pick it up tomorrow. Today is day 2 on 1mg. I think because I use to cut them up in to small doses, I am feeling this way. Today is the second day I am just taking it once in the morning. I am going to continue with the tapering. Hopefully tomorrow I will feel a bit better. Once I'm stable I'm going to go down to .75mg.
    I haven't heard back from the job yet. He is suppose to call me tomorrow afternoon. I think if I get the job, I wouldn't have to start for a few weeks.

    Thank you Bette I appreciate your advice. I just want to get through this.
    I will Keep posting everyday

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    Maninmirrior,

    I wouldn't worry too much. You don't want to drive yourself crazy. Everyone is different. I was on 6mg subs for a little over a year. You may not get as bad as me. Even if you do you'll get through it. I just want to be done with this and to feel normal again.

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    Since you are getting the withdrawal ease ..
    I would wait on the other supplements because all the stuff is in those 2 pills ..
    It might be over kill to take both..
    That is why the withdrawal ease is so great cuz it simplfys everything..
    Bette

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekky View Post
    Maninmirrior,

    I wouldn't worry too much. You don't want to drive yourself crazy. Everyone is different. I was on 6mg subs for a little over a year. You may not get as bad as me. Even if you do you'll get through it. I just want to be done with this and to feel normal again.
    Thanks! Today is my second day of my first reduction and I feel really good.. I think it may be a little easier for me, at least I'm hoping. I'm def going to get through it!

    You're almost there I'm happy for you.

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    Thank Betty. Yeah I realized that last night that I don't need to get the stuff on the Thomas Recipe since I order the With. Ease.
    I am feeling better today so I think I have stabilized. We'll see if I'll be able to sleep tonight. Tomorrow will be day 4 on 1mg. If I feel even better on day 5, then I will reduce to .75

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekky View Post
    Thank Betty. Yeah I realized that last night that I don't need to get the stuff on the Thomas Recipe since I order the With. Ease.
    I am feeling better today so I think I have stabilized. We'll see if I'll be able to sleep tonight. Tomorrow will be day 4 on 1mg. If I feel even better on day 5, then I will reduce to .75

    Thanks
    Happy to hear that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maninmirror View Post
    Happy to hear that!
    Thanks Man.

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